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    Quote Originally Posted by FJB View Post
    Avenger unfortantely has it wrong regarding the reason for elevation height adjustment.

    This is the MaTech mount for the Micro T-1. MaTech is the manufacturer of the Picatinny NSN BUIS in use with the US Military (over 1 million fielded).

    This mount was built at my request for the Micro T-1 to use with the M249/MK48 and M240/MK48 machineguns. The 5.56mm mount (M249) allows for adjustment from 100M to 800M in 100M increments. The 7.62mm mount (M240) will allow for adjustment from 300M to 1100M in 100M increments. I started working with MaTech on this mount over a year ago. The purpose is put an 8 to 10 ounce optic on a 16+lb (M249) or 20+lb (M240) vice a 1.5lb sight (which doesn't even hold zero). 1X Micro T-1 sights are superior for use with machineguns as they are light weight and the gunner doesn't get lost in the magnification nor the vibration of a magnified reticle during shooting. If threat ID is an issue than the Aimpoint 3X Magnifier in the Aimpoint Twist Mount will work with this mount when needed.

    All preliminary ballistics testing on M249, M240, and even US Ordnance M60E3 has been extremely positive. 5.56 Mount and 7.62 Mount systems are in the "kitty litter" box with an elite unit with very positive results. They would not send them back after the initial 30 day T&E. They insisted on keeping them until the end of their deployment.

    I believe LWRC will be selling these Mounts with Micro T-1s and H-1s for civilian use on Carbines. Production mounts will have opposing throw levers that lock. I can't speak for MaTech nor LWRC on availability, but best guess is mid to late December or early January.

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    That is great info. Thanks. So far I have been discontent with T1 mounting solutions. This is exactly the answer I have been looking for
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    FJB,

    Thanks for providing that info. Keep up the good work and keep us informed as permitted on other such projects.

    Quote Originally Posted by FJB View Post
    Avenger unfortantely has it wrong regarding the reason for elevation height adjustment.

    This is the MaTech mount for the Micro T-1. MaTech is the manufacturer of the Picatinny NSN BUIS in use with the US Military (over 1 million fielded).

    This mount was built at my request for the Micro T-1 to use with the M249/MK48 and M240/MK48 machineguns. The 5.56mm mount (M249) allows for adjustment from 100M to 800M in 100M increments. The 7.62mm mount (M240) will allow for adjustment from 300M to 1100M in 100M increments. I started working with MaTech on this mount over a year ago. The purpose is put an 8 to 10 ounce optic on a 16+lb (M249) or 20+lb (M240) vice a 1.5lb sight (which doesn't even hold zero). 1X Micro T-1 sights are superior for use with machineguns as they are light weight and the gunner doesn't get lost in the magnification nor the vibration of a magnified reticle during shooting. If threat ID is an issue than the Aimpoint 3X Magnifier in the Aimpoint Twist Mount will work with this mount when needed.

    All preliminary ballistics testing on M249, M240, and even US Ordnance M60E3 has been extremely positive. 5.56 Mount and 7.62 Mount systems are in the "kitty litter" box with an elite unit with very positive results. They would not send them back after the initial 30 day T&E. They insisted on keeping them until the end of their deployment.

    I believe LWRC will be selling these Mounts with Micro T-1s and H-1s for civilian use on Carbines. Production mounts will have opposing throw levers that lock. I can't speak for MaTech nor LWRC on availability, but best guess is mid to late December or early January.

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    Will this mount have a practical purpose on a semi-auto carbine? Sounds like it was purpose built specifically for the M240 & M249 SAW's, and wont really offer any practical benefits on a carbine over a LaRue or other aftermarket T1 mount.

    If I am off-base here, please advise.

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    Well with a magnifier one can adjust for range.
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    My uneducated guess is that LWRC also has interest in it for IAR mounting, as well as the family of medium crew-served setups. I'm assuming it functions almost identically (user end) for range adjustments as existing Matech BUIS, so this would provide an easy to use SAW/IAR sighting system for 400-800m use.

    How well would a magnifier work with the reflex optic set at 800m offset?

    It would sure function on a civilian carbine, but you wouldn't get as much marginal benefit for added # of moving parts, price will decide how it competes with the LT, GG&G, and ADM offerings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinB View Post
    Well with a magnifier one can adjust for range.
    I can see that. Although Im not sure that you would be able to mount a 3x magnifier behind the T1 using this mount on a standard length flattop upper receiver. It wouldnt be an issue on a monolithic top railed upper, but I think the overall size of this mount will limit your magnifier & BUIS mounting options on a standard flattop upper.

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    My guess is that at the full front of a Flattop you could sneak a magnifier behind it and clear a KAC BIS

    I am not sure about the external adjustment system of the Matech the T1 -- just gives me some Elcan shudders.
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    I guess the next most practical solution would be a cross between the above Matech system, and the Kiser Munitions setup for the CompM4 family (that has integral mount for magnifier aft of the optic, and unitized with the reflex optic mount). Principal downside I can think of is that even the minimal cheek weld adjustment would be counterproductive at longer ranges... and of course added cost, complexity, and BUIS location would be compromises as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinB View Post
    My guess is that at the full front of a Flattop you could sneak a magnifier behind it and clear a KAC BIS

    I am not sure about the external adjustment system of the Matech the T1 -- just gives me some Elcan shudders.
    Kevin,
    It holds zero very well on belt fed weapons, but keep in mind they shoot a cone of fire and their impact area is an oblong "beaten zone." They only need to be minute of terrorist accurate.

    Regarding their use on a carbine...don't know so I'll reserve t comment until I can get an early production mount for more testing.

    S/F

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avenger11 View Post
    Didn't mean to mislead anyone, my information was based on second hand knowledge. Thanks for clearing that up FJB.
    In order to maintain a site that is an effective database of good information, it is best to post information that you have first hand knowledge of. If you are repeating information that you have been told or have read from another poster, it is best to disclose that in the opening of the post.

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