Double feed cause and did I clear this correctly?

**Devildawg2531** · 10-10-20, 10:12

I was doing a US Arms competition Thursday and in 1 stage my previously rock solid Daniel Defense with a few thousand rounds through it had a misfeed. I rack the charging handle to clear it and another round feeds in partially. I eject the magazine and both rounds are partially in chamber. I put my finger up the mag well and cleared both out. Obviously that stage was fckd but wondering if that was the best way to clear the jam? It was with M193 ammo and gen 3 Magpul magazine. The rifle is all factory DD. This was the first time I've seen this type of jam in years of Marines and shooting. Wondering what caused it and what's the best way to clear it. Thanks

**TomMcC** · 10-10-20, 10:34

It's usually and extraction/ejections or a mag problem. I don't quite understand your description. Was there an empty and a live round in the upper at the same time or was it 2 live rounds?

**ggammell** · 10-10-20, 11:40

Originally Posted by TomMcC

It's usually and extraction/ejections or a mag problem. I don't quite understand your description. Was there an empty and a live round in the upper at the same time or was it 2 live rounds?

This. Two live rounds or empty case and live round would go a long way to diagnosing the cause.

**Devildawg2531** · 10-10-20, 11:46

It was 2 live rounds both partially in chamber.. 1 above the other. Both maybe 1/4 in chamber.

**ggammell** · 10-10-20, 11:47

Ok. Thanks.

Keep an eye on that magazine. That’s a true double feed and that is usually a magazine issue.

**TomMcC** · 10-10-20, 12:14

Yesh, sounds like a mag feed lip issue...many rounds on that mag?

With 2 rounds floating around in the upper. I would lock the bolt back, rip the mag, clear the double feed from the mag well, insert a fresh mag and drop the bolt.

**Dr. Bullseye** · 10-10-20, 13:00

Originally Posted by ggammell

Ok. Thanks.

Keep an eye on that magazine. That’s a true double feed and that is usually a magazine issue.

M*Carbo makes a stronger mag spring which they claim will fix 70% of feed problems. It fixed 100% of mine. I have them in all my 30 round mags.

https://www.mcarbo.com/ar-15-extra-p...ag-spring.aspx

I know this sounds like a moronic solution but believe me, it is worth its weight in gold.

**Ron3** · 10-10-20, 13:29

Originally Posted by Dr. Bullseye

M*Carbo makes a stronger mag spring which they claim will fix 70% of feed problems. It fixed 100% of mine. I have them in all my 30 round mags.

https://www.mcarbo.com/ar-15-extra-p...ag-spring.aspx

I know this sounds like a moronic solution but believe me, it is worth its weight in gold.

So Magpul mag springs are insufficient? Maybe his mag / spring is worn?

Serious question.

**TomMcC** · 10-10-20, 13:37

A stronger spring might fix a fail to pickup failure, but I would think it would exacerbate a round popping out of the feed lips situation. I'm not sure that this a round popping issue, so it's just speculation.

**jbjh** · 10-10-20, 14:13

The issue is that the 1st mis-fed round didn’t get cleared because it probably wasn’t chambered, meaning the extractor couldn’t do its job and left it behind. So when the OP racked the bolt back, he picked up a second round and it also got jammed in there.

OP, what ammo were you shooting?

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