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    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    You need to define the mission.

    Mission;

    short compact vehicle gun, that I might have to pull out if I drive into something bad.

    Mission;

    short compact shoulder fired weapon that I can fit into a small backpack that will not scream rifle bag for covert carry

    Two different missions, which need different tools to solve.
    How effective were the micro Galils? Didn't they have something like 8in barrels

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    556- black hills 50gr tsx performs well down to 8” barrels
    300blk preferred due to reduced pressure and blast/flash out of sub 10” bbls
    9mm- if you really need to go small. Something like an mp/tp9 or is a little larger than a pistol. Definitely a niche gun.

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    After speaking with you guys on here and talking to some of my Marine brothers about this I decided to go with B&T APC9k pro. I am really excited to see what this turns into for me. I had to order the brace so I am waiting on that. What optics would you guys recommend??? What about the light/laser anything out there that is small enough to mount on the side of the K?

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    I’d use a T2 and a Cloud Defense OWL, personally.
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    Aimpoint, either T-1 or T-2.

    Quote Originally Posted by echofiveniner View Post
    After speaking with you guys on here and talking to some of my Marine brothers about this I decided to go with B&T APC9k pro. I am really excited to see what this turns into for me. I had to order the brace so I am waiting on that. What optics would you guys recommend??? What about the light/laser anything out there that is small enough to mount on the side of the K?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    You need to define the mission.

    Mission;

    short compact vehicle gun, that I might have to pull out if I drive into something bad.

    Mission;

    short compact shoulder fired weapon that I can fit into a small backpack that will not scream rifle bag for covert carry

    Two different missions, which need different tools to solve.
    Would you give an example of a solution for each of these missions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disciple View Post
    Would you give an example of a solution for each of these missions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arik View Post
    How effective were the micro Galils? Didn't they have something like 8in barrels

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    I can't think of a unit that used them. The civilian police had some made in .30 cal carbine. But in 5.56 at 3am I can't think of a unit that used them.

    I should note that I have never been a Galil fan. Rifle is way to heavy for a 5.56 gun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disciple View Post
    Would you give an example of a solution for each of these missions?
    Sure for a truck gun AR with at least 10.5 barrel or if you want to go bullpup to get longer barrel in short package. Also we must be clear on the mission. Where are you? Will you run into a mob? What has the mob shown they do historically if fired upon. Do they break and run, or are you going to find yourself in a gun fight? The AR is slightly faster to reload, and most people have the muscle memory, can you say the same on a bull pup?

    Small weapon for in a backpack. Right now for me that is simple BT TP9. It is very small but offers a 5,5" barrel, light weight and the mag in the handgrip so it is just like reloading a pistol. on mine I have aimpoint also mine is the older model so I mounted a magpul angled front grip that does stick out and provide extra hand protection under the muzzle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    I can't think of a unit that used them. The civilian police had some made in .30 cal carbine. But in 5.56 at 3am I can't think of a unit that used them.

    I should note that I have never been a Galil fan. Rifle is way to heavy for a 5.56 gun
    I have a relative who was issued one. He sent me pics a while ago. As far as I know it was in 556 but I didn't even think there was a 30 carbine version. You see a specific firearm you assume it's chambered in XYZ

    Originally he was military border patrol. After getting stabbed he did something in plain clothes and was issued a G19 and a micro Galil.

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