Originally Posted by
Rrotz
.... I got lazy, kept my old Rothco PC and wanted a better PC and the OPT Mayflower MBAV was recommended by many people. Looking back in hindsight, I should have gotten a JPC 1.0.
Nah, nothing wrong with wanting a better upgrade, and frankly, I don't think you're losing anything with your Mayflower PC over the JPC 1.0. Now, the JPC 2.0, maybe...
I've never been a fan of the APC shoulder straps, but it's still a very versatile carrier. And plates with a pack are STILL going to be plates with a pack, regardless of the carrier.
I don't think the pack is to big to work for you either - it's what, like 18Hx14Wx6-8D ish? Looks like it can be cinched down smaller too?
I think you can make it work, it's just going to be more a matter of what/how much you fill it with. I mean, to me, that's more of a "day-plus/pack-lite-overnight" size pack, but it can work.
Granted, like I mentioned before, if I was just going out on a few hours/1 day "ground domination/area patrol" to secure your retreat perimeter, I'd take something simpler like a bladder carrier... Maybe bungee on a light rain jacket big enough to throw right over your gear (minus daypack), since it's Hawaii; protect/warm your torso a bit, as well as keep all that cordura from soaking up water and adding more weight.
You mentioned in a previous post you have a retreat spot picked out; are you driving in, or will you need to hike in after stashing vehicles?
Do you have the ability to pre-cache some supplies?
I guess my question is, patrol/bugout use aside, do you feel you need a large pack because you will be carrying supplies to the location by foot?
Originally Posted by
maxpetros
Forgot to mention
1. The importance of a ruck/quality bag with sustainment gear if you really plan to do any type of recon/bug out/overland movement. With that comes a significant other skillset far outside of shooting and firearms.
2. Plate carriers don't always play nice with packs over distance. Especially with a ton of stuff on your back. Take time to tweak your set up and pack for long term comfort. Mystery ranch makes some great gear that integrates nicely with armor.
Yeah, I also assumed that, since a significant quantity of armor was involved in the OP's post, the duration was already planned to be shorter. (1-2 day, maybe overnight)
IMHO, I'm not a LRRP expert, but if I'm going out on a multi-day trip by foot, it's my understanding you take the big pack and the chest rig, and leave the armor behind. With that kind of weight in a pack, IMHO, unless you MUST do it because of unit SOP, you don't want to wear armor for the sake of comfort (and possible injury). Probably also going to want to ditch the belt kit too so you can use a proper waist belt with the pack.
I've tried some larger packs with a PC... I really have no wish to *ever* try that for realz.... Although a pack with a good waist belt does seem to help here as well.
Last edited by Jellybean; 10-03-20 at 01:10.
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