So this whole kidnap Whitmer affair.....

**ABNAK** · 10-09-20, 08:59

Anyone else smell a setup? I mean has the friggin' FBI ever made a bust that wasn't a setup by one of their undercover plants? ABSCAM comes to mind, as well as a few of the later-day "terrorist plots" they "foiled". Yeah, send some dude in and drink a few brewskis with the disgruntled locals, listen to them bitch about Whitmer then egg them on....."Hey, I can get you this" or "How about if we XXX?"

Gee, you'd think with ALL of the shit going on since Memorial Day they'd have MUCH bigger fish to fry. But no, gotta have some swampy holdovers continue perpetuating the "Right-wing militia" bullshit.

I swear, that agency should be disbanded with dishonor, and yes I mean every-swinging-dick in it, not just the higher-ups.

**glocktogo** · 10-09-20, 09:15

Originally Posted by ABNAK

Anyone else smell a setup? I mean has the friggin' FBI ever made a bust that wasn't a setup by one of their undercover plants? ABSCAM comes to mind, as well as a few of the later-day "terrorist plots" they "foiled". Yeah, send some dude in and drink a few brewskis with the disgruntled locals, listen to them bitch about Whitmer then egg them on....."Hey, I can get you this" or "How about if we XXX?"

Gee, you'd think with ALL of the shit going on since Memorial Day they'd have MUCH bigger fish to fry. But no, gotta have some swampy holdovers continue perpetuating the "Right-wing militia" bullshit.

I swear, that agency should be disbanded with dishonor, and yes I mean every-swinging-dick in it, not just the higher-ups.

It does seem they've been trying very hard lately, to bring themselves down to ATF levels of disrepute.

**Averageman** · 10-09-20, 09:33

I thought it smelled like a sack of ten day old fish. Ironically, this happens days after She was slapped down by her own judiciary and all while the left is giving CPR to the "White Supremacist" narrative that was dying on the vine.

Just another thought "So when did and how did Joe Biden become coherent again?"
I mean a couple of months ago he was babbling along in his own world, pretty much "F"ing up every appearance he was at.
Now he seems like he's as good as new again.

**Diamondback** · 10-09-20, 10:41

Originally Posted by Averageman

I thought it smelled like a sack of ten day old fish. Ironically, this happens days after She was slapped down by her own judiciary and all while the left is giving CPR to the "White Supremacist" narrative that was dying on the vine.

Just another thought "So when did and how did Joe Biden become coherent again?"
I mean a couple of months ago he was babbling along in his own world, pretty much "F"ing up every appearance he was at.
Now he seems like he's as good as new again.

See why Trump was asking for a drug test? The other thing may be better wranglers on the teleprompter and earpiece...

**Nightvisionary** · 10-09-20, 11:44

I read this story and watched a youtube video of one of the plotters. He is a Hula Hoop prolapsed earlobe Anarchist that also hates Trump. Hardly the "Right Wing Militia" type. I can almost guarantee the whole thing was an FBI set up. I read much of the PC affidavit and there were at least 4 independent confidential informants/undercover agents involved. That is damn near a majority of the group.

I can tell you how the FBI set up was attempted in one case with a volunteer group on the southern border. A man that identified himself as a contractor working for the DOJ assisting USBP with border surveillance introduced himself to the organization and soon started going on training evolutions and ops. He acted in a gregarious manner and after about 6 months became a familiar part of the team. He made it known that he was an unofficial dotted line between the volunteer group and the government. He appeared to be integrated into the USBP communications and intelligence networks at the sector level. After several months he started to make suggestions while the group was divided up into small patrols. Suggestion like, "Let's follow this draw, or this trail, or this wash". These suggestions if followed would invariably have resulted in the armed volunteers crossing the border into Mexico. Luckily the team leaders in each case were experienced combat veterans with good land nav skills who quashed the suggestions each time. On another occasion the "contractor" shared intel with two senior members of the group and lead a pre-dawn push up a mountain top to a known cartel spotter location. The top of the mountain was the border. Once they got to the top the contractor motioned for the volunteers to keep going (Cross the border). They said no. Contractor stated there was a fresh track and they should keep going. They told him no 3 more times. When the sun came up they saw one of the border patrol mobile surveillance trucks with FLIR and ground radar was pointing in their direction from a nearby hilltop. Sometime later he stated he had intel about new cartel staging areas south of the line. He suggested we go into those areas to gather intel because "Official" assets could not do so. That was about the last straw and not long after that a member discovered court documents that identified him as a confidential informant for the FBI whose purpose was to report on "militia" groups. That is how it happens.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bronso...aHvvgq4vAzvOqk

**Grand58742** · 10-09-20, 12:32

Okay, this is very strange...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/2-c...-april-ag-says

Two brothers who were charged Thursday in a plot to kidnap and kill Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer were identified as the identical twins photographed months earlier carrying long guns during a protest inside the state Capitol.

Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel’s office confirmed the men's identity from a photo previously posted by state Sen. Dayna Polehanki, D-Livonia, on the day of the protest.

I mean, I know stupid is as stupid does, but who in their right mind would draw attention to themselves like that by walking into the capitol building carrying long guns? just walking in you should know (should...) you're going to be on the radar of every law enforcement agency in a four state area.

I'm not conspiracy minded, but this really doesn't make sense from an Opsec standpoint.

**duece71** · 10-09-20, 11:42

Originally Posted by Averageman

I thought it smelled like a sack of ten day old fish. Ironically, this happens days after She was slapped down by her own judiciary and all while the left is giving CPR to the "White Supremacist" narrative that was dying on the vine.

Just another thought "So when did and how did Joe Biden become coherent again?"
I mean a couple of months ago he was babbling along in his own world, pretty much "F"ing up every appearance he was at.
Now he seems like he's as good as new again.

Adrenochrome therapy. Just ask for Hildabeast and her supply.

**StovePipe_Jammer** · 10-09-20, 09:28

They drop this into the public view right as the Michigan governor is in the spotlight for what appears to be a blatant abuse of her power as she continues to extend the lock downs and associated restrictions. People are no longer talking about her actions but the crackpot plot against her.

Granted, I've read this investigation was ongoing since early June. But the only thing I've heard so far repeated over and over was "militia", ties to the (actually) peaceful open carry protest at the capital and how Trump had said at one point to "take back Michigan".

Politically convenient timing and as we've seen in 2016, the FBI obviously has zealous, ideologically driven members in it's ranks.