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    Quote Originally Posted by WickedWillis View Post
    From what I'm seeing they are trying to pin these guys as Trump supporters, but everything I've read and watched completely contradicts that.
    Yeah, because if they are Trump supporters then everyone knows that Trump himself condones and even helped plan this whole escapade.
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    I heard that the feds were tipped off by social media postings. Which doesn’t surprise me in the least, considering how absent-minded the chest thumping is around this site.

    Everyone say hi to the officer assigned to monitor this site. Hello good sir!

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    I was thinking the same thing from the moment it was announced, but didn't want to be the first to say it.

    Yes, this smells. Hey, do you remember the guys who were supposedly trying to blow up a bridge in Ohio, like 6-7 years ago?

    And the timing of political cover for both Whitmer and Harris/Biden is fantastic. Both flailing around, suddenly this shows up.
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    I don’t believe the narrative that these guys were Trump supporters but the complaint makes the conspiracy to kidnap charge pretty clear cut. The guys made plans, conducted training and engaged in surveillance. How much of this was encouraged by the CHS and UCE folks won’t be known until trial though.

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    So, if they reform and start waving a BLM flag, will all be forgiven?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    I thought it smelled like a sack of ten day old fish. Ironically, this happens days after She was slapped down by her own judiciary and all while the left is giving CPR to the "White Supremacist" narrative that was dying on the vine.

    Just another thought "So when did and how did Joe Biden become coherent again?"
    I mean a couple of months ago he was babbling along in his own world, pretty much "F"ing up every appearance he was at.
    Now he seems like he's as good as new again.
    Adrenochrome therapy. Just ask for Hildabeast and her supply.

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    I read this story and watched a youtube video of one of the plotters. He is a Hula Hoop prolapsed earlobe Anarchist that also hates Trump. Hardly the "Right Wing Militia" type. I can almost guarantee the whole thing was an FBI set up. I read much of the PC affidavit and there were at least 4 independent confidential informants/undercover agents involved. That is damn near a majority of the group.

    I can tell you how the FBI set up was attempted in one case with a volunteer group on the southern border. A man that identified himself as a contractor working for the DOJ assisting USBP with border surveillance introduced himself to the organization and soon started going on training evolutions and ops. He acted in a gregarious manner and after about 6 months became a familiar part of the team. He made it known that he was an unofficial dotted line between the volunteer group and the government. He appeared to be integrated into the USBP communications and intelligence networks at the sector level. After several months he started to make suggestions while the group was divided up into small patrols. Suggestion like, "Let's follow this draw, or this trail, or this wash". These suggestions if followed would invariably have resulted in the armed volunteers crossing the border into Mexico. Luckily the team leaders in each case were experienced combat veterans with good land nav skills who quashed the suggestions each time. On another occasion the "contractor" shared intel with two senior members of the group and lead a pre-dawn push up a mountain top to a known cartel spotter location. The top of the mountain was the border. Once they got to the top the contractor motioned for the volunteers to keep going (Cross the border). They said no. Contractor stated there was a fresh track and they should keep going. They told him no 3 more times. When the sun came up they saw one of the border patrol mobile surveillance trucks with FLIR and ground radar was pointing in their direction from a nearby hilltop. Sometime later he stated he had intel about new cartel staging areas south of the line. He suggested we go into those areas to gather intel because "Official" assets could not do so. That was about the last straw and not long after that a member discovered court documents that identified him as a confidential informant for the FBI whose purpose was to report on "militia" groups. That is how it happens.

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bronso...aHvvgq4vAzvOqk
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    Okay, this is very strange...

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/2-c...-april-ag-says

    Two brothers who were charged Thursday in a plot to kidnap and kill Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer were identified as the identical twins photographed months earlier carrying long guns during a protest inside the state Capitol.

    Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel’s office confirmed the men's identity from a photo previously posted by state Sen. Dayna Polehanki, D-Livonia, on the day of the protest.
    I mean, I know stupid is as stupid does, but who in their right mind would draw attention to themselves like that by walking into the capitol building carrying long guns? just walking in you should know (should...) you're going to be on the radar of every law enforcement agency in a four state area.

    I'm not conspiracy minded, but this really doesn't make sense from an Opsec standpoint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grand58742 View Post
    Okay, this is very strange...

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/2-c...-april-ag-says



    I mean, I know stupid is as stupid does, but who in their right mind would draw attention to themselves like that by walking into the capitol building carrying long guns? just walking in you should know (should...) you're going to be on the radar of every law enforcement agency in a four state area.

    I'm not conspiracy minded, but this really doesn't make sense from an Opsec standpoint.
    Because it’s all setup. Black Swan, whatever name you want to call it. It’s BS.


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    FBIs dirty, top down.
    Seems quite obvious they’ve been nothing less than Lefists Gestapo for years, and bunglers at best in anything other than a set up.

    Get rid of them.
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