ATF Interpretive Change Restricts Handgun Imports and May Require NFA Registration

[jpmuscle]

It would be even easier than that, just remove ATF from the DOJ and return them to the "tax status" branch they used to be concerned with regulation of alcohol, tobacco and firearms with licensed distributors, etc.

If they find somebody with an unregistered item who is not otherwise a criminal then that person should have to pay the $200 tax or surrender the item. Nobody gets their doors kicked and dogs shot for having untaxed cigarettes.

Now if it's a criminal in possession of a machine gun, then that is a criminal matter because we are talking about criminals.

That's the way the world should be working. And if it were completely up to me, there is a country in Northern Europe that issues machine gun collectors licenses where you pay ONE TIME and can then own and import any current production or collectible machine gun you can find and buy.

And not does the simple possession of machine gun a criminal make. But your points are salient.



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[Firefly]

Lol gun guys are the hugest cucks.

Human trafficking is illegal but right now someone is selling women.
Drugs are illegal but enough spanish snow crosses the border as to be comical

And....and....I’m supposed to lose sleep over some cubicle dweeb and a lawyer too sorry to make it in a firm’s interpretation?

[SteyrAUG]

And not does the simple possession of machine gun a criminal make. But your points are salient.



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In a perfect world it would only be an issue of failure to pay a tax which would result in demand for payment or surrender of item.

I can still remember sitting at my grandfathers table with all of his buddies who brought back duffel bag SMGs of all kinds. In the 1950s you simply pulled the bolt and technically you didn't have a functional machine gun. Sometime around the 1960s so long as you kept the bolt in the basement or attic you were good....but DON'T let them catch you shooting it or they will make you register it and it was expensive.

By about 1977-1979 I watched so many WWII vets in their late 50s and early 60s shoot machine guns behind the barn on the family farm it wasn't funny. They had a big pile of rusty paint cans that got lit up every fall. The idea that any of them could be arrested for that sort of thing was just too absurd to take seriously. Most of them didn't notice the passage of the 68 GCA, most of them didn't take the 1934 NFA seriously because it wasn't like they were robbing banks with them or anything.

I sorta wish a few of them would have registered them, they could have form 5 to a legal heir, but those kids probably would have just sold them off and used the money to buy a cool car or some stupid shit.

I saw MP-18s, MP-38s, MP-40s, MP-41s and a couple PPsh41s (which they hated cause nobody ever had ammo). They called every German SMG regardless of make and model a "burp gun" and when they all got together there was sometimes magazine confusion but afterwards we always went to KFC and I can't remember a better time.

I knew a couple guys who brought stuff back from Nam, some of it amnesty registered...most of it not. But they were usually quiet and cautious about it, it was all secret stuff along the lines of their time in Laos and Cambodia and all the secret CIA stuff they did, most of which never happened. Environment was different so they were more leery about bringing home illegal enemy small arms and again, ammo was problem. None of those guys ever wanted to have a barn party, but if you were cool they might show it to you. I don't remember any one of them ever shooting their liberated Type 3.

Early 80s I knew some SOF types who F'd around in Afghanistan and brought back some T3s that were of course unregistered. Ammo was then more readily available so they actually shot their stuff from time to time.

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Don't comply, problem solved.


There was a lot of non-compliance reported following Connecticut and New York's so-called "assault weapon" registration schemes. But my guess is those guns don't see much daylight. I haven't seen any bump stocks the last couple years.

While hiding under the bed is certainly an option, it isn't much of a solution to the problem.

[Korgs130]

In a perfect world it would only be an issue of failure to pay a tax which would result in demand for payment or surrender of item.

I can still remember sitting at my grandfathers table with all of his buddies who brought back duffel bag SMGs of all kinds. In the 1950s you simply pulled the bolt and technically you didn't have a functional machine gun. Sometime around the 1960s so long as you kept the bolt in the basement or attic you were good....but DON'T let them catch you shooting it or they will make you register it and it was expensive.

By about 1977-1979 I watched so many WWII vets in their late 50s and early 60s shoot machine guns behind the barn on the family farm it wasn't funny. They had a big pile of rusty paint cans that got lit up every fall. The idea that any of them could be arrested for that sort of thing was just too absurd to take seriously. Most of them didn't notice the passage of the 68 GCA, most of them didn't take the 1934 NFA seriously because it wasn't like they were robbing banks with them or anything.

I sorta wish a few of them would have registered them, they could have form 5 to a legal heir, but those kids probably would have just sold them off and used the money to buy a cool car or some stupid shit.

I saw MP-18s, MP-38s, MP-40s, MP-41s and a couple PPsh41s (which they hated cause nobody ever had ammo). They called every German SMG regardless of make and model a "burp gun" and when they all got together there was sometimes magazine confusion but afterwards we always went to KFC and I can't remember a better time.

I knew a couple guys who brought stuff back from Nam, some of it amnesty registered...most of it not. But they were usually quiet and cautious about it, it was all secret stuff along the lines of their time in Laos and Cambodia and all the secret CIA stuff they did, most of which never happened. Environment was different so they were more leery about bringing home illegal enemy small arms and again, ammo was problem. None of those guys ever wanted to have a barn party, but if you were cool they might show it to you. I don't remember any one of them ever shooting their liberated Type 3.

Early 80s I knew some SOF types who F'd around in Afghanistan and brought back some T3s that were of course unregistered. Ammo was then more readily available so they actually shot their stuff from time to time.

In the summer of 2003 there were a group of folks at Saddam Hussein International Airport who had small market back room market with battlefield pickups. AKs were $100 a piece. I was very tempted to grab one of the MP5s they had for $150. I didn’t. I wasn’t much of a gun guy at the time, and had no clue on any gun regulations other than the fact that non registered machine guns were illegal. If I knew then, what I know now, I may have made the purchase.

[Firefly]

In the summer of 2003 there were a group of folks at Saddam Hussein International Airport who had small market back room market with battlefield pickups. AKs were $100 a piece. I was very tempted to grab one of the MP5s they had for $150. I didn’t. I wasn’t much of a gun guy at the time, and had no clue on any gun regulations other than the fact that non registered machine guns were illegal. If I knew then, what I know now, I may have made the purchase.

How much were PKMs?

[jpmuscle]

In the summer of 2003 there were a group of folks at Saddam Hussein International Airport who had small market back room market with battlefield pickups. AKs were $100 a piece. I was very tempted to grab one of the MP5s they had for $150. I didn’t. I wasn’t much of a gun guy at the time, and had no clue on any gun regulations other than the fact that non registered machine guns were illegal. If I knew then, what I know now, I may have made the purchase.

Dude....


That would’ve been awesome.


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[glocktogo]

In the summer of 2003 there were a group of folks at Saddam Hussein International Airport who had small market back room market with battlefield pickups. AKs were $100 a piece. I was very tempted to grab one of the MP5s they had for $150. I didn’t. I wasn’t much of a gun guy at the time, and had no clue on any gun regulations other than the fact that non registered machine guns were illegal. If I knew then, what I know now, I may have made the purchase.

For $150 you could've made bank just stripping parts off them and destroying the naughty bits.

[MountainRaven]

For those of us who bought AR pistols so we don’t have to, “Mother may I?” to the ATF every time we cross state lines, like with our SBRs, hiding the thing under the bed isn’t really a solution.

[Diamondback]

For those of us who bought AR pistols so we don’t have to, “Mother may I?” to the ATF every time we cross state lines, like with our SBRs, hiding the thing under the bed isn’t really a solution.

This is why I only buy stripped lowers...