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Thread: ATF Interpretive Change Restricts Handgun Imports and May Require NFA Registration

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    Who did you vote for to be the head of the BATFE?
    And yet, they can legislate?
    Sorry, but right after we throw everyone out of the FBI Building, lets just go pay these guys a visit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evel Baldgui View Post
    Ah yes, the ATF, a bunch of pathetic bureaucratic cunts held over from the obama administration ....fire them all ffs. This is the only "LE" agency that should be defunded.
    why they consider themselves a legislative body is beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maximus83 View Post
    Unbelievable. Another rogue agency completely ignoring Trump and the will of the electorate.
    Ignoring "Get the guns first; due process later." Trump? That Trump?

    No .gov "official" is on your side.
    Hurrah for The Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star

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    In the more general sense, one can see the moves being put in place in advance. Kammy says she wants a basic semi-auto AR-15 registered under NFA. Now, we see what ATF will do. The blind innocents, who argue with anyone who says "Registration is the forerunner of confiscation" will get hit in the forehead. I suppose some still won't "get it." The current move highlights the precedent, so the ATF can just "issue a letter" to change everything.
    Hurrah for The Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star

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    The acting head of ATF is a long time apparatchik. Trumps anti gun pick to replace her was withdrawn when some Senators balked his anti civilian ownership views. My guess is she and her staff are virtue signaling to Biden/Harris in order to keep their jobs.
    Go Ukraine! Piss on the Russian dead.

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    If this flies, it will be applied to domestic firearms too.

    Easily fixed though by removing front foregrip.

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    If a bump stock can be interpreted as to meet the GCA definition of machinegun then pretty much anything goes. And that wasn't anti-gun ATF's doings, it was top-down from Trump to the DOJ with the blessings of the NRA. At the time I said it was one of the most egregious actions (related to gun control) from the executive branch doing an end-run around Congress, and set the stage for more to come. Welcome to the 'interpretive' future.
    Last edited by ChattanoogaPhil; 10-27-20 at 11:03.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChattanoogaPhil View Post
    If a bump stock can be interpreted as to meet the GCA definition of machinegun then pretty much anything goes. And that wasn't anti-gun ATF's doings, it was top-down from Trump to the DOJ with the blessings of the NRA. At the time I said it was one of the most egregious actions (related to gun control) from the executive branch doing an end-run around Congress, and set the stage for more to come. Welcome to the 'interpretive' future.
    Yep. Absolutely insane. It’s a MG because they say so, not because it meets the criteria of a MG. And at the heart of it, 922(o) and 925(d)(3) are unconstitutional and illegal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshNC View Post
    Yep. Absolutely insane. It’s a MG because they say so, not because it meets the criteria of a MG. And at the heart of it, 922(o) and 922(l) are unconstitutional and illegal.

    FIFY-

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyLate View Post

    Of course Steyr AUG is correct about the sporting purposes clause. Equally as damaging is allowing the ATF to make fluid and vague determinations that can turn a lawful gun owner into a felon with the swipe of a pen.
    In case you weren't certain, the "sporting purpose" clause is what gives ATF the ability to make those vague determinations. Take that away and they have to strictly abide by definitions, they have no room for interpretation because there is nothing to interpret.

    It would literally become a matter of "is this a taxable and regulated item?" and if so "has the tax been paid." Firearms would be treated pretty much like alcohol and tobacco and simply regulated.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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