ATF Interpretive Change Restricts Handgun Imports and May Require NFA Registration

[jpmuscle]

The Waffen Judenrat does more in a day than ATF does in a year

I chortled heartily


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[MountainRaven]

Are ya winning, son?

[AndyLate]

Are ya winning, son?

More than we may be in a week and change...

[SteyrAUG]

Oh boy. More interpretations.

I love interpretations. It’s like you can make up whatever you want. Like an ink blot test.

Doesn’t matter about the law or constitution.

It’s like someone saying “It came to me in a dream” or “it was real in my mind”

So long as the sentence "The ATF has determined..." can result in new laws that may or may not even contradict ATF specific definitions, there is no stopping them.

And AGAIN for anyone who hasn't heard me say it 100 times yet...this ALL comes from the "sporting clause" within the 1968 Gun Control Act. It's what allows ATF to determine if a particular firearm has a "sporting application or not" and it's really just guidelines rather than hard and fast rules they must adhere to in order to make a determination.

If we could just get the sporting clause struck from the 68 GCA, all of this romper room nonsense would vanish. No more 922r, no more domestic vs foreign manufacture, no more 89 import ban and quite honestly no more restrictions of imported machine guns post 68 or domestic machine guns post 86.

If people put the effort they put into crying about bump stocks and arm braces into getting rid of the sporter clause, nobody would need a bump stock or arm brace.

[SteyrAUG]

Are ya winning, son?

Not since Reagan, but people even dispute that.

[maximus83]

Unbelievable. Another rogue agency completely ignoring Trump and the will of the electorate.

[Diamondback]

If people put the effort they put into crying about bump stocks and arm braces into getting rid of the sporter clause, nobody would need a bump stock or arm brace.

Other than for State level BS. For example, in WA a Mk 18 pistol is legal for loaded carry in a vehicle with a carry permit, an SBR is not. And then there's the "Mother May I" bullshit having to apply for a permission slip to take your SBR across state lines... the AR pistol does have its small niche for cases like that.

[rero360]

Well if this becomes law I’m putting stocks on my AR pistols.

Irish democracy? Don't mind if I do.

[jsbhike]

Oh boy. More interpretations.

I love interpretations. It’s like you can make up whatever you want. Like an ink blot test.

Doesn’t matter about the law or constitution.

It’s like someone saying “It came to me in a dream” or “it was real in my mind”

Someone saying they have an "idea" I can handle to some extent, even if I don't like the idea.

Politicians almost always want to tell you about their "vision". I have to assume they really are having visions which means they are "seeing shit" and don't need to be running around loose, much less with a say in anything.

[AndyLate]

It's BS and I'm certainly not pleased about it. On the other hand, this affects imports and the ATF has been allowed to disapprove or approve imports seemingly at will for some time. Since there are no real injured parties, who will take them to court to force importation of a certain firearm?

The whole HoneyBadger issue concerns me more but it's also ripe for a lawsuit. There may be injured parties and the ATF appears to be turning lawful citizens into felons.

Of course Steyr AUG is correct about the sporting purposes clause. Equally as damaging is allowing the ATF to make fluid and vague determinations that can turn a lawful gun owner into a felon with the swipe of a pen.

The ATF and their wealthy buddies know the cannot ban AR/AK pistols across the board, so they will start chiseling. One firearms manufacturer or importer at a time, actions that are not subject to public purview or the freedom of information act, actions that can avoid legal oversight with a simple letter.

Andy