This is trump's fault.
Trump's 2A coalition never existed.
He laid the groundwork for this with the bumpstock ban.
Chuck Canterbury (trump's interim ATF director) is staunchly anti gun.
Bill Barr is anti gun, and presided over the ruby ridge incident.
With that said, it was wreckless for the industry to invent and market bumpstocks and arm braces in the the first place. Everyone knew what they were getting away with, operating in the very gray area. Now this has come back to regulating pistol versions of rifles, which was the ATF's ultimate goal in the first place. If arm braces didn't exist; we probably wouldn't be having a discussion about this new type of AOW. The arm brace gave ATF the legal and political clout they needed make these pistols into AOWs.
In comes down to intent in court, not the technical definition of machinery. Everyone who had a bumpstock or arm brace flaunted about what they were getting away with. It was an untenable position that was on borrowed time.
The bumpstock was a set-up. ATF approved them and wanted to set up a court case where a factory M16 would be shown in video A and then a semi auto equipped AR-15 with bumpstock would be shown in video B. What do you think a jury is going to think about this? They would declare there is no difference. Then the "readily convertible" theory would be declared and all semi auto AR-15s would be declared MGs in and of themselves; because a jury or judge would rule they are too easy to convert to full auto.
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Someone challenge the BATmen to show us, "sporting purposes," in the Constitution.
I'll wait.
- Either you're part of the problem or you're part of the solution or you're just part of the landscape - Sam (Robert DeNiro) in, "Ronin" -
Just pay for your tax stamp like a good little sheep.
After all if you just comply you have nothing to worry about.
Ok dude
If anyone has been paying attention they want all firearms subject to stricter regulation and registration. Bump stocks braces etc never mattered and they sure as fuvk weren’t going to do anything to change the end goal but you keep selling yourself the fantasy of compliance equals safety.
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Last edited by jpmuscle; 10-28-20 at 17:04.
It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.
Chuck, we miss ya man.
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It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.
Chuck, we miss ya man.
كافر
Think of your social credit score
If I remember correctly, SteyrAUG can correct me, but at one time all receivers on a 4473 were checked as a pistol. It took a couple years to update the form to add receiver as it’s own box for the dealer to check off on.
Also, here is a question, if does come down to register it or whatever, making it a rifle is an option? Right, you can make a pistol or receiver a rifle, just not make a rifle into a pistol. Is that still the case?
Last edited by arbninftry; 10-28-20 at 18:21.
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