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    Niihau Incident. Look it up then decide if FDR was wrong when viewed through the lens of 1941-42.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightvisionary View Post
    Niihau Incident. Look it up then decide if FDR was wrong when viewed through the lens of 1941-42.
    So, 3 traitorous Japanese Americans justifies the internment of hundreds of thousands of Japanese-American citizens and their children, the negation of their constitutional rights and the theft of their property? I guess "fear" wasn't to be feared, it was those 10 year old Jap girls we had to fear. Were German-Americans treated this badly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomMcC View Post
    So, 3 traitorous Japanese Americans justifies the internment of hundreds of thousands of Japanese-American citizens and their children, the negation of their constitutional rights and the theft of their property? I guess "fear" wasn't to be feared, it was those 10 year old Jap girls we had to fear. Were German-Americans treated this badly?
    The Germans didn't bomb Pearl Harbor, (I'd love to insert the Jim Belushi bit from "Animal House" here, but Im too lazy, so you'll have to visualize).

    The Japanese did attack us. I'm no FDR fanboy, but he was operating in a context of the nation just being attacked. What other surprises awaited? Hindsight is always easy. Also, he was getting reports from Naval Intelligence that "agents" were waiting to stage an uprising - much as there is a lot of conspiracy jabbering about moles and cells ready to stage an uprising now. What does he do? Be wrong, and have chaos here. Those decisions aren't easy: I certainly wouldn't like to have to make them.

    Funny, that Naval Intelligence was involved with a lot of "issues". Oh, like the delays in getting the translations of the Japanese letter leading up to the attack. Or, why did the information from the White House, when it finally got sent, get sidetracked and sent regular instead of FLASH? Why was Adm. Kimmel unreachable, or a message slow to Gen. Short? A collection of "mistakes" or a hand at work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by REDinFL View Post
    The Germans didn't bomb Pearl Harbor, (I'd love to insert the Jim Belushi bit from "Animal House" here, but Im too lazy, so you'll have to visualize).

    The Japanese did attack us. I'm no FDR fanboy, but he was operating in a context of the nation just being attacked. What other surprises awaited? Hindsight is always easy. Also, he was getting reports from Naval Intelligence that "agents" were waiting to stage an uprising - much as there is a lot of conspiracy jabbering about moles and cells ready to stage an uprising now. What does he do? Be wrong, and have chaos here. Those decisions aren't easy: I certainly wouldn't like to have to make them.

    Funny, that Naval Intelligence was involved with a lot of "issues". Oh, like the delays in getting the translations of the Japanese letter leading up to the attack. Or, why did the information from the White House, when it finally got sent, get sidetracked and sent regular instead of FLASH? Why was Adm. Kimmel unreachable, or a message slow to Gen. Short? A collection of "mistakes" or a hand at work?
    So what, they were Americans with inalienable rights, you know, rights given by God, not by FDR/Augustus Caesar. They didn't attack anyone. But hay, you never know when those slanty eyed bastards might stab you in back, best to treat their lives as chattel. Germany declared war on us and killed hundreds of thousands of our men.

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    You'll (not personal, but rhetorical) find out about "inalienable rights" soon enough. That concept went out in 1865, now it's just political bullshit to hypnotize the suckers. The standard cop doctrine is, "I'll find something to arrest you for." That will expand. The hildebeest wanted to do that us "deplorables", send political dissidents to "fun camps." Think she's the only one who thinks that way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by REDinFL View Post
    You'll (not personal, but rhetorical) find out about "inalienable rights" soon enough. That concept went out in 1865, now it's just political bullshit to hypnotize the suckers. The standard cop doctrine is, "I'll find something to arrest you for." That will expand. The hildebeest wanted to do that us "deplorables", send political dissidents to "fun camps." Think she's the only one who thinks that way?
    I have no illusions concerning the wretchedness of men and women in power and their contempt for nobodies like me. That's why I try to steel myself against the creeping tyranny in our country, who knows, we may even have to engage in a hot fight to save our lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Cliff notes:

    FDR was an actual racist and in particular his policies of interning Japanese Americans following Pearl Harbor who were not guilty of any actual crimes is one of the few times this country actually practiced "institutionalized racism" in the 20th century but nobody wants to talk about that and most people today hero worship the hell out of FDR even though he was the only "other guy" that year beside Hitler and Stalin who were actually putting people into relocation camps.

    Sadly I thought everyone knew this stuff already. Did we stop teaching who was President when the US put Japanese people into camps? Because I know every school is still teaching how the US was so racist during WWII that they put Japanese Americans into camps.
    My oldest learned it as part of her curriculum within the last couple of years in middle school. And it gets covered even more heavily when they get to high school from what I hear.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TomMcC View Post
    I have no illusions concerning the wretchedness of men and women in power and their contempt for nobodies like me. That's why I try to steel myself against the creeping tyranny in our country, who knows, we may even have to engage in a hot fight to save our lives.
    There I agree with you 100%.

    I saw a T shirt with a line that fits me: "Don't mess with old people. Life in Prison isn't that much of a deterrent." Hell, with the economy, it may just be a retirement alternative.
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    What leftists really think about a full blown racist.
    Why... they VOTE for 'em - of COURSE!!!




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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightvisionary View Post
    What? Marxism was an unfinished theory and the Republican party did not exist in 1848. What revolution are you referring to?
    The Communist Manifesto was published in 1848 with Marx, Engels, and others doing their thing for years prior. The revolutions in Europe occurred in 1848 with a heavy influence from Marxists, Communists, or whatever you like to call them.

    The revolutions failed with many of the revolutionaries being imprisoned. Carl Schurz, Franz Sigel, and Fritz Anneke were a few of the big names that managed to escape Europe and click with the early Republican party with plenty of their lesser known comrades gravitating to the party as well.

    Pretty good read on the subject.

    https://aronzonijr.medium.com/the-re...s-c0ff3155c08b

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