How a 3rd Nuke destined for Japan killed American Scientists here in the US.

[Averageman]

http://extragoodshit.phlap.net/wp-co...cientists.html

President Harry S. Truman knew that one bomb would not be enough to force Japan to surrender, so he ordered two. What many don’t know is that there was a third bomb in reserve, just in case.

This third bomb had not been assembled yet, but its plutonium core—the heart of the bomb—was ready, and kept at the Los Alamos National Laboratory. When it became clear a third bomb would not be necessary, nuclear scientists at Los Alamos were delirious with excitement. Here there was in their hands, the rarest of the rare material—a 6.2 kg core of pure plutonium. They probed and prod the shinny metallic sphere and subjected it to countless experiments, until two sloppy scientists nearly blew up the laboratory and ruined it for every one. Both of them were dead within days, and the core acquired the nickname “demon core”.

[Firefly]

We should have tested it on Moscow just saying

[Diamondback]

We should have tested it on Moscow just saying

If we could get it there with sufficient surprise to keep Stalin from spider-holing... the Moscow subway system was actually designed as a bunker system first and mass transit second.

[Dr. Bullseye]

The Americans invented nothing. All atomic bombs came from Germany. Germany tested two uranium bombs in 1944. They sent bomb material to Japan which they tested in North Korea. The US captured a uranium bomb at one site and two plutonium bombs at another. If this bomb in question was not German, it was a copy of a German bomb and you see what happened as these scientists had no idea of what they were doing. There are tons of documentation on the German bomb in a book by Dr. Rainer Karlsch and more in books but Friedrich Georg and Thomas Mahner, Edgar Meyer and an Italian government witness to an atomic test, Luigi Romersa. It is in German language.

[jbjh]

The Americans invented nothing. All atomic bombs came from Germany. Germany tested two uranium bombs in 1944. They sent bomb material to Japan which they tested in North Korea. The US captured a uranium bomb at one site and two plutonium bombs at another. If this bomb in question was not German, it was a copy of a German bomb and you see what happened as these scientists had no idea of what they were doing. There are tons of documentation on the German bomb in a book by Dr. Rainer Karlsch and more in books but Friedrich Georg and Thomas Mahner, Edgar Meyer and an Italian government witness to an atomic test, Luigi Romersa. It is in German language.

Can you please post a link?


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[chuckman]

The Americans invented nothing. All atomic bombs came from Germany. Germany tested two uranium bombs in 1944. They sent bomb material to Japan which they tested in North Korea. The US captured a uranium bomb at one site and two plutonium bombs at another. If this bomb in question was not German, it was a copy of a German bomb and you see what happened as these scientists had no idea of what they were doing. There are tons of documentation on the German bomb in a book by Dr. Rainer Karlsch and more in books but Friedrich Georg and Thomas Mahner, Edgar Meyer and an Italian government witness to an atomic test, Luigi Romersa. It is in German language.

US physicists were working on nuclear fission in the late 30s. While I definitely see a "nuclear race" and parallel development based on multiple sources, it's a bit disingenuous to pin all success to the Germans.

[Diamondback]

US physicists were working on nuclear fission in the late 30s. While I definitely see a "nuclear race" and parallel development based on multiple sources, it's a bit disingenuous to pin all success to the Germans.

And many of our top nuke guys were Germans and Italians fleeing Hitler and Mussolini, IIRC. Japan was scary close and had some of the world's best cyclotrons, and despite Mac lobbying for them to be relocated for Allied scientists to use the order came down to destroy them all.

Nightmare, imagine nuclear kamikazes... IIRC they even had an "Atomic Blossom" designed based on the Yokosuka MXY7 just waiting for a warhead to plug in.

[Alex V]

This guy has good videos on many nuclear and radiological disasters.

Here is the one on the "demon core"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE8F...ainlyDifficult

[MountainRaven]

The Americans invented nothing. All atomic bombs came from Germany. Germany tested two uranium bombs in 1944. They sent bomb material to Japan which they tested in North Korea. The US captured a uranium bomb at one site and two plutonium bombs at another. If this bomb in question was not German, it was a copy of a German bomb and you see what happened as these scientists had no idea of what they were doing. There are tons of documentation on the German bomb in a book by Dr. Rainer Karlsch and more in books but Friedrich Georg and Thomas Mahner, Edgar Meyer and an Italian government witness to an atomic test, Luigi Romersa. It is in German language.

Did they test these bombs in Antarctica or on the Moon?

[Dr. Bullseye]

Did they test these bombs in Antarctica or on the Moon?

Why don't you google the names I provided, read their work and you can tell us?

This is not the forum for this subject. I gave you the author's names, some have done multiple books. There are many more than these. The only obscure reference is Luigi Romersa who was Mussolini's representative in 1944 researching Hitler's super weapons claims. He was present on Ruegen Island, just north of Peenemuende, in Oct. 1944 for a test of an atomic bomb. He gives his account in: Defensa, Number 76-77,August-Septmber, 1984, Gestern Nachricht, Heute Geschicte (Yesterday's News, Today's History) in an article titled: Die Geheimwaffen von Hitler, etws meher als (nur) Phantasie, (The German Secret Weapons of Hitler, something more than only fantasy).

Giving the Germans 100% of the credit is 100% correct as they did 100% of the work, even building the bombs themselves we dropped on Japan. But the Germans even refined the U235 we used in future projects as a shit load of it was captured in a German submarine and taken to New Hampshire after the Germans surrendered. There were many 56 kilo containers of uranium oxide U235 the compound by which they chose to transport fissionable uranium. We captured it and it was taken to Oak Ridge, TN. This submarine was U-234, originally bound for Japan. This is another subject worth googling.