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    Quote Originally Posted by kwelz View Post
    Seriously? Is your father still around? I bet my dad would love to talk to him.
    I bet it'd be fun and educational if we could get him and my old prof the F-106 pilot together... I've long thought that if they hadn't all been cut up and coulda been stripped of "national security secrets" it would have been appropriate for Wright-Pat and Monino to put together a joint display at each museum with an old A- or B-model BUFF and a first-gen Bear parked nose-to-nose and a mockup alert-shack behind each plane showing the Cold War aircrew experience for both sides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex V View Post
    My father was in the Soviet Air Force working on TU95s in Uzyn. Those TU95 would fly with live nukes all the time. Wonder how many of them has accidents we will never know about?
    The Bear Foxtrot reference brings back some memories for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwelz View Post
    My father worked on nukes while he was in the Air Force. They have reunions every year and he was even the president of their group for a while. The stories these guys tell run from terrifying to hilarious. The number of almost disasters I have heard about at these events.....
    These guys? https://usafnukes.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwelz View Post
    Seriously? Is your father still around? I bet my dad would love to talk to him.
    Yeah, they are flying back from Arizona right now. Went to Sedona to get the **** out of NJ for a week.

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckman View Post
    The US did not like to talk about AC crashes with nukes, you just know the USSR would clamp down on it.
    Dude, we didn't know about Chernobyl until my aunt called us from New Jersey, and we were in Kiev.

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    Such a good show. Sucks it only had 1.5 seasons.

    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    I bet it'd be fun and educational if we could get him and my old prof the F-106 pilot together... I've long thought that if they hadn't all been cut up and coulda been stripped of "national security secrets" it would have been appropriate for Wright-Pat and Monino to put together a joint display at each museum with an old A- or B-model BUFF and a first-gen Bear parked nose-to-nose and a mockup alert-shack behind each plane showing the Cold War aircrew experience for both sides.
    I am sure if they [the museum] got enough money, the Russians would sell them anything, including a TU95. They will sell you a MiG29 for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex V View Post
    I am sure if they [the museum] got enough money, the Russians would sell them anything, including a TU95. They will sell you a MiG29 for sure.
    True, my thinking was more of a joint "Cold War Memorial" funded by both governments, designed by both museums and built on both sites remembering the men who kept an uneasy peace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Bullseye View Post
    Why don't you google the names I provided, read their work and you can tell us?
    But the Germans even refined the U235 we used in future projects as a shit load of it was captured in a German submarine and taken to New Hampshire after the Germans surrendered. There were many 56 kilo containers of uranium oxide U235 the compound by which they chose to transport fissionable uranium. We captured it and it was taken to Oak Ridge, TN. This submarine was U-234, originally bound for Japan. This is another subject worth googling.
    Yeah, no. While U234 did have Uranium oxide onboard, it was about 1200 lbs at an unknown concentration, and was also used (and evidently still is) as a catalyst for various fuel products:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_submarine_U-234
    Estimates are that it was about 20% of what you'd need for a bomb.

    Also ignores the 1200 TONS of abnormally high grade Uranium ore that we had in the States in 1940 courtesy of the Belgian Congo:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinkolobwe

    Cite your sources, be willing to link out to articles, books or public research. You've got as much credibility as Alex Jones selling weight loss drugs at this point...

    https://www.spiegel.de/international...-a-346293.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex V View Post
    Dude, we didn't know about Chernobyl until my aunt called us from New Jersey, and we were in Kiev.
    Damn, that's seriously disturbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex V View Post
    Yeah, they are flying back from Arizona right now. Went to Sedona to get the **** out of NJ for a week.



    Dude, we didn't know about Chernobyl until my aunt called us from New Jersey, and we were in Kiev.



    Such a good show. Sucks it only had 1.5 seasons.



    I am sure if they [the museum] got enough money, the Russians would sell them anything, including a TU95. They will sell you a MiG29 for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    Нет, мой друг.

    Ето:

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    Quote Originally Posted by prdubi View Post
    There are things still being found such as that underground factory near Vienna.

    I don't believe the final story has been asked and answered yet.

    Also the UK MoD and DOD still have classified information still secret until 2045.
    Why?


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    Sure. We didn't get the actual story of Hitler's remains until the wall came down, but the real story compared to the 1945 Russian version wasn't dramatically different.

    And just because the Brits classify something "ultra double special secret" isn't evidence of life changing reveal to come anymore than the complete release of of the Warren commission didn't really offer all the government secrets Oliver Stone was hoping for.

    There are some small things that will probably remain always unknown, but I think the biggest evidence that Germany never had a completed device or anything even close to it is the fact that it didn't get dropped on us in Bastogne or some other location. Something like an atomic bomb, even in a 1 kiloton yield, was exactly the kind of wonder weapon Hitler was hoping for and dreaming about. If it existed at all in any form it would have absolutely been used and the argument is only would he have dropped it on us or the Russians.
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