The Great Plate Debate

[omegajb]

Bought a set of the Botach Level 4 11x14 large plates back on Jan 13th when they had over 250 plates in stock. I know it takes a bit of time to get things out the door these days, but I just got notified last nite that my order was cancelled with no reason why. I notice that the 10x12 Level 4 plates are now listed as out of stock also when they just had them back in stock. Anyone else out there have the same experience with their order? I wonder if there was a problem with the manufacture of the plates.

I had a bad experience with Botach with an order of magazines, it took over a month and this was before the craziness we're seeing now.
Fortunately I wasn't in a rush and have ordered things from them since without issue.

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[teufelhund1918]

I had a bad experience with Botach with an order of magazines, it took over a month and this was before the craziness we're seeing now.
Fortunately I wasn't in a rush and have ordered things from them since without issue.

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I haven't had a bad experience with them.... til now. I ordered the plates when they had over 250 in stock. Never shipped and the order was cancelled. I emailed and asked why and got a bs answer that they had a system screw up. So, I reordered them when they had some in stock again. They provided a tracking # and marked them as shipped. No update from UPS on the shipping status, so I emailed yet again and asked what the deal was. Was told now that they over sold them and they will have more in 2 weeks. Pretty piss poor service this time IMHO. I don't see how it was oversold when I checked when I ordered them and the number in stock reflected what was sold. Won't be dealing with them again if this continues like this.

[Don Robison]

Bought a set of the Botach Level 4 11x14 large plates back on Jan 13th when they had over 250 plates in stock. I know it takes a bit of time to get things out the door these days, but I just got notified last nite that my order was cancelled with no reason why. I notice that the 10x12 Level 4 plates are now listed as out of stock also when they just had them back in stock. Anyone else out there have the same experience with their order? I wonder if there was a problem with the manufacture of the plates.

They’re a shit show and always have been. If you didn’t lose money, you’re lucky.


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[AndyLate]

I bailed on AR500bodyarmor after multiple delays and difficult communications. The only action (besides charging my card) I got out of them was cancelling my order. To their credit, they refunded the money back to my card quickly when I cancelled.

I will simply buy better plates and USA made carrier and belts, so no harm done.

Andy

[ViniVidivici]

I bailed on AR500bodyarmor after multiple delays and difficult communications. The only action (besides charging my card) I got out of them was cancelling my order. To their credit, they refunded the money back to my card quickly when I cancelled.

I will simply buy better plates and USA made carrier and belts, so no harm done.

Andy

They did you a favor, my friend!

[AndyLate]

They did you a favor, my friend!

I really do agree. I have a set of AR500 plates and a Condor plate carrier now, so its time to upgrade, not duplicate.

Andy

[okie]

I really do agree. I have a set of AR500 plates and a Condor plate carrier now, so its time to upgrade, not duplicate.

Andy

Yea man, sell that stuff on Reddit and grab some Hesco or Agilite or something. I would recommend springing for multicurve, but literally anything is better than steel.

[The_War_Wagon]

I'm retired from the Army (non-Combat Arms) and drive a desk at a defense contractor in a pretty calm part of the South.

Am I crazy/in a Walter Mitty fantasy for thinking I should buy a plate carrier and rifle plates to prepare for the remote chance we have a social break down in the next 10 <strike>years</strike> MONTHS?

Other than your timetable... no.

[teufelhund1918]

They’re a shit show and always have been. If you didn’t lose money, you’re lucky.


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Well, after my initial purchase and reordering the plates 2 other times, I finally got them. My first order was cancelled because they said there was an inventory problem even though when I ordered them, they had 260+ plates in stock. The second order wasn't filled even though I don't know why as they had them in stock again but no charge on the card. The third order was finally filled. I had to continually email them til they refunded the initial charge to my card. I guess I got lucky from what others have said here. That said, it was a pain in the arse enough that I will not deal with them again. After trying to find a carrier to fit these plates, I've finally decided to make my own. Found the materials, but I have to find a machine that can handle heavy duty sewing for the cordura fabric.

[teufelhund1918]

Out of curiosity, I was looking at the level 4 plates from LA Police Gear. Has anyone used these plates in the APTUM SAPI/SHOOTER Minimalist Plate Carrier. I have the large SAPI carrier, but no plates for it. I thought the BOTACH plates would work, but not.