The German 7.92x33 Kurz round

**Slater** · 11-03-20, 20:17

This is the cartridge for the World War II German StG44 assault rifle. Given it's ballistics, would it be a viable combat round today or has technology passed it by?

**CRAMBONE** · 11-04-20, 00:39

Seems like it would be viable but procurement would be the huge negative. And wasn’t only the STG-44 (and it’s family) chambered for it?

**Arik** · 11-04-20, 06:54

It's still in use. Today it's called 7.62x39

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**meausoc** · 11-04-20, 07:15

Prvi-Partizan still loads it.

**mack7.62** · 11-04-20, 07:53

Originally Posted by Arik

It's still in use. Today it's called 7.62x39

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Performance wise I think it is closer to 300 Blackout than 7.62 x 39, 125 grain bullet at 2,250 FPS.

**Arik** · 11-04-20, 07:57

Originally Posted by mack7.62

Performance wise I think it is closer to 300 Blackout than 7.62 x 39, 125 grain bullet at 2,250 FPS.

7.62 123gr 2400fps

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**jsbhike** · 11-04-20, 13:30

Think it was a Forgotten Weapons episode where this question was asked on 7.92x33 vs. 7.62x39 and the answer was the 7.92 case dimensions were not quite as efficient in terms of necesssary magazine size and the 7.92 bullet in flight was not as efficient due to lower BC as a result of the larger diameter/same weight.

**jsbhike** · 11-04-20, 13:49

Originally Posted by CRAMBONE

Seems like it would be viable but procurement would be the huge negative. And wasn’t only the STG-44 (and it’s family) chambered for it?

There are a few variants of those. Also these that used the same magazine.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkssturmgewehr

Not issued, but there were 7.92x33 FAL prototypes as well.