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    Quote Originally Posted by Coal Dragger View Post
    Fewer rail miles now? Yes.

    Easier to disable? No.

    Derailments happen, probably far far more often than the public ever knows about. On average for a major derailment that takes out a single or multiple main tracks, a Class 1 RR will have the line opened up and running in 24 hours or less. That’s in an instance where the track itself is totally destroyed.

    The derailments I have worked usually go something like this:

    1.) Train details and puts cars on the ground, rips up the rail, smashes up the ties and generally messes stuff up. Could be a couple miles of track damaged if something was dragging before popping off the rail. At any rate the balloon goes up that there is a service interruption.

    2.) Within the hour phones start ringing with Maintenance of Way, Mechanical, and Operations (train crews/dispatch etc) departments. Also a company called R.J. Corman gets a call, they have a lot of equipment to clean up derailments.

    3.) About hour 2, the RR departments listed above start calling in crews, and getting materials headed to the site. Every division will have cars in a siding somewhere loaded with track panels (rails on concrete ties already attached), and other stuff for repairing a bunch of track. Also somewhere there’s going to be a bunch of dump cars full of ballast. Those are going to very shortly be having locomotives with a crew assigned to go snatch them out of the siding and head to the derailment site. Mechanical inspectors will head out to make a decision on what can be saved or moved.

    R.J. Corman will fire up a fleet of low boy flatbeds with dozers and cranes and all manner of toys, and head that way.

    4.) Depending on how far everyone has to go heavy equipment will be on site and getting after it within 4-5 hours, at least on my division.

    All the broken shit gets bull dozed off to the side. Cars, locomotives (moved one way or another), the rail, ties, ballast, cargo, whatever... pushed out of the way into a pile.

    Anything standing on solid rail that isn’t damaged will be moved via rail out of the area.

    Then the track guys get to work laying new track, and dumping ballast on it, tamping it, and making sure the track is passable. If multiple mains are wiped out all effort goes into getting one main open. I don’t think I have ever seen this take more than 24 hours to be running again. Usually less than 12 for a single main to get opened up.

    5.) Simultaneously to the first few hours the folks responsible for routing traffic start re-routing everything they can or stopping what they cannot so things stay moving or at least don’t pile up.
    I’m 30 minutes from RJ Corman.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coal Dragger View Post
    Fewer rail miles now? Yes.

    Easier to disable? No.
    Noted. Thanks for the education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by officerX View Post
    I’m 30 minutes from RJ Corman.


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    HQ? Or a field office?

    They have multiple locations in the US near big RR’s.

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    HQ in Nicholasville, KY.


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    This is practically in my backyard. The bridge people at KYDOT are close friends of mine, and they are quietly saying that people should be prepared for months of closure. Local traffic has been completely ****ed all week, and as has already been posted the usage of the Roebling Suspension Bridge by commercial trucks forced the police in Covington, KY to close that bridge.

    The Brent Spence has been known to need extensive update/replacement for probably 20 years now. However, the surrounding area makes property acquisition for building a replacement very close to the current bridge cost prohibitive. Another alternative that has been floated is building some kind of a regional bypass; a high-speed throughway starting somewhere south of Dayton and getting back to 75 south of the NKY suburban areas. The real hangup to making anything happen however has always been the inability of KY and OH to agree and then force the federal government to take action. On the upside, it appears their hand is now forced and perhaps the repairs and expansions that are needed will finally happen.

    As my buddy in KYDOT says, "of course that Final Destination shit would happen...it's 2020."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coal Dragger View Post
    Put most of that freight on the rails where it belongs.
    Coal Dragger I don't know about your railroad but here in the east CSX and Norfolk Southern dominate everything. They are not interested in expanding or picking up business. Actually they would rather run off business, shut down shops, layoff crews, and store locomotives. They are obsessed with this precision railroading and lowering the operating ratio. All they want to run is unit trains that require no switching. I've been in the industry for 26 years and never seen it this bad. I'm starting to worry if there will be enough people working to fund RRB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thepatriot2705 View Post
    Kinda surprised this isn’t getting more national attention, but there was a hazmat truck accident on the Brent Spence bridge that connects Ohio and Kentucky at Cincinnati. The trucks caught on fire and damaged the bridge. Closure could last months. Why bring this up? That bridge carries 3% of the nations GDP.

    https://www.wlwt.com/amp/article/loc...ridge/34655246
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    It's 24/7 "orange man bad, orange man must leave" right now.
    Orange Man caused that bridge accident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    Orange Man caused that bridge accident.
    Well the pics I saw of the trucks showed orange flames, so it must be true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meausoc View Post
    Coal Dragger I don't know about your railroad but here in the east CSX and Norfolk Southern dominate everything. They are not interested in expanding or picking up business. Actually they would rather run off business, shut down shops, layoff crews, and store locomotives. They are obsessed with this precision railroading and lowering the operating ratio. All they want to run is unit trains that require no switching. I've been in the industry for 26 years and never seen it this bad. I'm starting to worry if there will be enough people working to fund RRB.
    So far BNSF is resisting this stupidity, but I’m sure it’s only a matter of time before our idiot “leadership” tries it out.

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