ATF and AR Pistols...time to sell?

[jpmuscle]

Oh Lord that was sad wasn't it? Dude's with approved F1 cans that have had them for months or years freaking out.

"WHAT DOES THIS MEAN????? AM I A FELON NOW CUZ F1 CANS ARE ILLEGAL????? DO I NEED TO CALL THE ATF AND TURN THEM IN?????"

The bulk of gun owners are abject pussies. And dudes still want to get their panties in a wad over stocks on pistols and pinned 14.5s.. gtfoh

You can’t change my mind


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[Diamondback]

The bulk of gun owners are abject pussies. And dudes still want to get their panties in a wad over stocks on pistols and pinned 14.5s.. gtfoh

Worse, Fuddtarded Kapokucks. I do the pin-weld and "no stock on pistol" on my own iron, but that's just "managing my risks and picking my battles," I'm not gonna Karen anybody--if I see something that looks NFA, I'm gonna assume you did your own due diligence and mind my own business.

[jpmuscle]

The bulk of gun owners are abject pussies. And dudes still want to get their panties in a wad over stocks on pistols and pinned 14.5s.. gtfoh

You can’t change my mind


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Cowards. All of them.


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[ViniVidivici]

**** the BATFE. Keep what a got.

[yoni]

But remember the same knuckleheads proposing the bans are also advocating defunding police... abolishing prisons!

Being a felon will probably be legal!

In the future the USA will have 2 kinds of criminals, the muggers, drug sellers, rapist, etc, will get a pass from the government.

The second kind of criminals are those that believe in the Constitution and will refuse to give up on America, and will refuse to give up our guns. This group will be second class citizens. We will have the same status that blacks had 1864 to 19?? what ever. Make no mistakes we will be Native Americans in the 1800's, the Kulaks .

This whole thing is absolutely fascinating to watch. I used to wonder about the rise of the Nazi's and then once they got into power and started attacking Jews. Most of the Jews just stayed in place and let this tide roll over them. I am getting the feeling a huge number of gun owners will knell and turn in their evil guns.

[codifier]

No one is coming for your guns.

They can abolish this or institute that. Makes no difference.

The 2nd amendment is a dead letter and meaningless. The 2nd amendment doesn’t protect or secure a thing. The constitution is a dead document for that matter. And has been for quite some time.

Don’t get me wrong. They do want your guns. But it sure as hell isn’t the 2nd amendment that keeps them from coming for them.

The reason they aren’t coming for your guns is they simply can’t figure out how to do it. It’s a logistical issue. The sheer number of guns and the gun culture in this country is what keeps those firearms in your hands. Not the 2nd amendment.

There are simply more of us than them. Which leads to my original point. When are we gonna stand up as a community and tell the feds we aren’t going to follow their dictates any longer?

I doubt we will. Which is why we continue to lose day in and day out.


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They will go with the slow bleed method. Criminalize, but no need to organize any logistics, just wait for people to have an interaction with the Government/LE, or someone to snitch on them. Over time things will become unobtainable and as people die off their descendants will turn in "grandads illegal assault weapon" when they find it or when the Government offers them a gift card. In a generation or two the non-compliance people will be gone and the Government, who plays the long game will have won. Anyone who gets scooped up in their net in the meantime will be vilified and demonized to prevent others from feeling solidarity, there will always be something to bandy about on anyone to make others not want to associate with them, and failing that it's easy to manufacture something. Drugs can be done safely in your home without anyone being the wiser, supply is the difficult part, but there's enough cracks in the system for people to get them. Guns can't be quietly enjoyed at home, you need ranges or private property to shoot on and the latter only needs one person to call LE in.

The only way forward is to not comply while fighting in the courts, and if pushed, in the street. Whether we as a community have the backbone for that remains to be seen.

[Thorpew]

No one is coming for your guns.

They can abolish this or institute that. Makes no difference.

The 2nd amendment is a dead letter and meaningless. The 2nd amendment doesn’t protect or secure a thing. The constitution is a dead document for that matter. And has been for quite some time.

Don’t get me wrong. They do want your guns. But it sure as hell isn’t the 2nd amendment that keeps them from coming for them.

The reason they aren’t coming for your guns is they simply can’t figure out how to do it. It’s a logistical issue. The sheer number of guns and the gun culture in this country is what keeps those firearms in your hands. Not the 2nd amendment.

There are simply more of us than them. Which leads to my original point. When are we gonna stand up as a community and tell the feds we aren’t going to follow their dictates any longer?

I doubt we will. Which is why we continue to lose day in and day out.


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Actually, a gun confiscation would be easy to do, to get 80%of them.

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[Thorpew]

It would be ancillary enforcement. By decree they make instant felons out of thousands (millions?) of law abiding Americans who possess braces. Then it becomes an added charge anytime someone is found in possession of one through other means- PD checking out loud music complaint, your ex calling the police to say she feels threatened by you, etc......

Then threatening ranges if anyone uses a brace at their range.....


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[iflyskyhigh]

Actually, a gun confiscation would be easy to do, to get 80%of them.

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How do you figure? Where did you come up with the 80% figure.

There will be no confiscation without compliance. Full stop. The second the state try’s to start there will be bloodshed. Not gonna happen.


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[iflyskyhigh]

They will go with the slow bleed method. Criminalize, but no need to organize any logistics, just wait for people to have an interaction with the Government/LE, or someone to snitch on them. Over time things will become unobtainable and as people die off their descendants will turn in "grandads illegal assault weapon" when they find it or when the Government offers them a gift card. In a generation or two the non-compliance people will be gone and the Government, who plays the long game will have won. Anyone who gets scooped up in their net in the meantime will be vilified and demonized to prevent others from feeling solidarity, there will always be something to bandy about on anyone to make others not want to associate with them, and failing that it's easy to manufacture something. Drugs can be done safely in your home without anyone being the wiser, supply is the difficult part, but there's enough cracks in the system for people to get them. Guns can't be quietly enjoyed at home, you need ranges or private property to shoot on and the latter only needs one person to call LE in.

The only way forward is to not comply while fighting in the courts, and if pushed, in the street. Whether we as a community have the backbone for that remains to be seen.

The state is your enemy. The sooner we realize that the sooner we start to push back. Way to many statist boot lickers in the 2A community. This undying love for the police and military will only quicken the tyranny.


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