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Thread: Why no double barrel "firearms" similar to shockwave/tac-14?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    What would a PGO-and-VFG side-by-side at 18.5" barrel/26" OAL look like, anyway?

    I believe the Sicilian name for an 8-10" SxS is a lupara... problem with a lupara or a howdah is you only get one or two shots, great if you get the first or last hit in but not so much if the other guy still wants to play after you've run out. I'd probably go with a reduced-recoil deer slug load...
    Mini shell slugs would likely be a better choice. 2-3/4" Managed recoil slugs are babies in a pump compared to full power slugs, but I think would still be a recoil wallop in a break action with pistol grip and potential to lose teeth if brought up to eye level.

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    A double barrel shotgun (or rifle) with double triggers pretty much guarantees a second shot, which is not true of any repeater. Third and fourth shots are going to take a little time, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyLate View Post
    A double barrel shotgun (or rifle) with double triggers pretty much guarantees a second shot, which is not true of any repeater. Third and fourth shots are going to take a little time, of course.

    Andy
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    A lupara makes a lot of sense if you live someplace where the most likely firearm to be encountered that isn't another lupara is a 22-, 25-, or 32-caliber Browning or pocket revolver.

    But I think when you're more likely to face opponents using 10+ round 9mm, 40-, 45-caliber modern autoloaders, 4-to-8-round pump and automatic shotguns, subguns, and carbines, it loses a lot of appeal.

    As to why we haven't really seen any double-barrel "firearms"... I would guess it's partially because almost all double-barrel shotguns are imported. The ones that are not are quite expensive, and anyone who could afford one would almost certainly have spent a small fraction of that money on acquiring a more modern, generally better defensive weapon. The OAL-to-barrel length is probably not a winning proposition and the thing would still be illegal almost everywhere the Mossberg Shockwave and Remington Tac-14 are.

    I think it would be cool if someone made one, but I don't know why I (or anyone else) would acquire one instead of a Shockwave, Tac-14, or similar - unless someone just wanted a cool toy (sort of the same thing as with an SBS'd o/u or "coach gun").
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    Like I said in the OP, I don't think they would actually be all that practical. I'm just suprised someone like Stoeger isn't selling these alongside the coach guns.

    I don't want one. If I were to have one it would be a toy. The doubles market is pretty high end. Making one yourself would be $$$, for the cost of the gun plus 200 for the form one (since you can't make the "loophole" compliant version from a shotgun)

    I suppose if you wanted to make it really exiting you could make one from an old black powder double. Then every shot would be a guessing game of "will it fire, or blow up in my face?"

    I guess on second thought, could such a thing even be imported? Does the sporting clause eliminate the possibility?

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    Personally I'll stick with my 590 over a "Mad Max" it was just a point of curiosity.
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