A double barrel shotgun (or rifle) with double triggers pretty much guarantees a second shot, which is not true of any repeater. Third and fourth shots are going to take a little time, of course.
Andy
A lupara makes a lot of sense if you live someplace where the most likely firearm to be encountered that isn't another lupara is a 22-, 25-, or 32-caliber Browning or pocket revolver.
But I think when you're more likely to face opponents using 10+ round 9mm, 40-, 45-caliber modern autoloaders, 4-to-8-round pump and automatic shotguns, subguns, and carbines, it loses a lot of appeal.
As to why we haven't really seen any double-barrel "firearms"... I would guess it's partially because almost all double-barrel shotguns are imported. The ones that are not are quite expensive, and anyone who could afford one would almost certainly have spent a small fraction of that money on acquiring a more modern, generally better defensive weapon. The OAL-to-barrel length is probably not a winning proposition and the thing would still be illegal almost everywhere the Mossberg Shockwave and Remington Tac-14 are.
I think it would be cool if someone made one, but I don't know why I (or anyone else) would acquire one instead of a Shockwave, Tac-14, or similar - unless someone just wanted a cool toy (sort of the same thing as with an SBS'd o/u or "coach gun").
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Like I said in the OP, I don't think they would actually be all that practical. I'm just suprised someone like Stoeger isn't selling these alongside the coach guns.
I don't want one. If I were to have one it would be a toy. The doubles market is pretty high end. Making one yourself would be $$$, for the cost of the gun plus 200 for the form one (since you can't make the "loophole" compliant version from a shotgun)
I suppose if you wanted to make it really exiting you could make one from an old black powder double. Then every shot would be a guessing game of "will it fire, or blow up in my face?"
I guess on second thought, could such a thing even be imported? Does the sporting clause eliminate the possibility?
ETA:
Personally I'll stick with my 590 over a "Mad Max" it was just a point of curiosity.
Last edited by utahjeepr; 11-30-20 at 09:32.
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It's true shotgun pellets start dropping velocity quickly below about 14 inches of barrel length.
I like the idea of a double used for defense as long as its backed up by a pistol. Odds are a shot or two from the double will fix the problem and a reload is certainly possible. (Faster and easier than a revolver reload IMO)
But if there isnt enough time to reload dropping it once empty and drawing a pistol is faster and easier.
I really like the Yildiz doubles made in Turkey. Auto-ejectors toss hulls out, the firing mechanism is more reliable than the Stoeger, the safety does NOT auto-engage like most doubles, pulling the trigger twice is simple, and they dont cost much.
Doubles are nice and short because they dont have the 7 inch long receiver of a pump. So a 24 inch double is about the same length as an 18 inch pump AND the double easily takes down in half for easy transport or storage.
They also have changable chokes if that's important to you. The Yildiz guns usually come with 5 chokes and a tool.
I have a 20 ga youth I'm tempted to cut down but I probably wont. It has 24 inch barrels and the stock is already nice and short. Still, would be pretty neat to cut off about 10 inches of barrel. I could cut almost 6 with no papers and it would be about 6 inches shorter than an 18 inch pump already.
I find SxS's easier to reload quickly but O/U better for shooting. I think the rest of the world agrees with that.
Last edited by Ron3; 12-10-20 at 09:00.
That's true, but it's still significantly more powerful than other options in that size category, such as a 9mm SBR with a 5 inch barrel, like the SP5K for example. As far as PDWs in that size go, it's the only truly powerful option you have. Even an AR PDW with a 5-7 inch barrel is only a glorified 5.7 at that point, plus has all the other issues associated with barrel lengths that short.
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