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    I don't want to believe in UAP or Extraterrestrial beings, it deeply and profoundly disturbs me. I've wanted the subject to go away for most of my life, and I've been hoping to find an undeniable reason to dismiss the phenomena. So, for about 50 years i've been looking for the reason to dismiss it. But I cannot.

    Yeah, there are kooks and charlatans aplenty, BUT, if you clear away the nuts, the core of the story continues to hold stubbornly together. Recurring patterns of activity that seem random, but at the same time have coherence, and hold even as our culture changes. Its really weird, and scary.

    But unfortunately, with the Governmental statements (On top of years of following the subject), I believe its true, we have visitors, or at least a super advanced culture sharing the solar system with us. I believe the Government is playing a coy game, they have disclosed the reality of the phenomena. But in a way that most folks cannot grasp or accept.

    This is the most important event in the history of the world, and its scary, people cannot get past their subconscious fear based rejection to begin to grasp the implications. We are arguing about how far away the other planets are, and how impossible it is instead of contemplating the implications and planning for coping with the changes.

    With the recent slow disclosure of the reality of UAP, and now perhaps alien life by representatives of our Government, its odd that so many want to reject and hastily explain away the obvious clues these people are giving us. It seems like people have an automatic defense mechanism to avoid the shock of contemplating the possibility that there are superior and perhaps strange beings visiting us.

    If you open your mind for a minute, we already know that "they" would be extremely far ahead of us in tech capability
    If they are even 500 years ahead of us, its possible we may have no clue how they achieve the power for high speed travel or inter-dimensional travel. I believe we are struggling to comprehend their capability and therefore it's easier to declare it impossible. But consider this: If they are 100,000 years ahead....we become ants in comparison. Their technology and their basic biology may seem like magic mixed with fairy tale beings to us.

    At this point, the questions about how they got here, are becoming unimportant, as the questions about why they're here, and who they are, is poking us right in the eye.

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    The truth about the military interactions and the reason that the Navy is taking this so seriously is pretty evident. Forget about the 2004 incidents. The truth hasn't been widely discussed but, Navy pilots in 2015 began engaging odd craft that looked like transparent beach balls with a cube inside, along with other craft off the East Coast. This activity reportedly continued on an almost daily basis for five months. Sometimes there were "fleets" of them. It was also reported to have happened in the Middle East as well.

    I believe world military organizations have been occasionally encountering strange craft since the 40'sThat's about when the secrecy really began.

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    Recent Statements

    Daily Mail
    Saturday, Feb 6th 2021


    CIA Director John Brennan recently said,"But I think some of the phenomena we’re going to be seeing continues to be unexplained and might, in fact, be some type of phenomenon that is the result of something that we don’t yet understand and that could involve some type of activity that some might say constitutes a different form of life" "Going to be seeing"?

    Then Brennan, of course, launches into the plausible deniability BS, saying something about weather phenomena in the 2004 incidents. If it was the prosaic weather explanation, why did he opine on UAPs and Alien life.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ife-Earth.html


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    Statement by the Department of Defense on the Release of Historical Navy Videos
    April 27, 2020


    "The Department of Defense has authorized the release of three unclassified Navy videos, one taken in November 2004 and the other two in January 2015, which have been circulating in the public domain after unauthorized releases in 2007 and 2017. The U.S. Navy previously acknowledged that these videos circulating in the public domain were indeed Navy videos. After a thorough review, the department has determined that the authorized release of these unclassified videos does not reveal any sensitive capabilities or systems, and does not impinge on any subsequent investigations of military air space incursions by unidentified aerial phenomena. DOD is releasing the videos in order to clear up any misconceptions by the public on whether or not the footage that has been circulating was real, or whether or not there is more to the videos. The aerial phenomena observed in the videos remain characterized as "unidentified." The released videos can be found at the Naval Air Systems Command FOIA Reading Room: https://www.navair.navy.mil/foia/documents."

    https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Rel...l-navy-videos/


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    From the NYT 7/23/20

    Discussing the retrievals of unexplained objects....

    "Eric W. Davis, an astrophysicist who worked as a subcontractor and then a consultant for the Pentagon U.F.O. program since 2007, said that, in some cases, examination of the materials had so far failed to determine their source and led him to conclude, “We couldn’t make it ourselves.”

    The constraints on discussing classified programs — and the ambiguity of information cited in unclassified slides from the briefings — have put officials who have studied U.F.O.s in the position of stating their views without presenting any hard evidence.

    Mr. Davis, who now works for Aerospace Corporation, a defense contractor, said he gave a classified briefing to a Defense Department agency as recently as March about retrievals from “off-world vehicles not made on this earth.

    Mr. Davis said he also gave classified briefings on retrievals of unexplained objects to staff members of the Senate Armed Services Committee on Oct. 21, 2019, and to staff members of the Senate Intelligence Committee two days later.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/u...reid-navy.html

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    Attachment 65120
    'Most of the UFO evidence hasn’t seen the light of day': Former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says the government is covering up evidence of unexplained encounters.


    - Former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid made the claim in the documentary, The Phenomenon, which is directed by James Fox
    - The Phenomenon is a new film that examines the 'long-standing global cover-up and mystery involving unidentified aerial phenomenon'
    - ‘Why the federal government all these years has covered up, put brake pads on everything, stopped it, I think it’s very, very bad for our country,’ Reid said
    - When asked if he’s saying there’s still evidence that hasn’t yet been publicly disclosed, Reid replies: ‘I’m saying most of it hasn’t seen the light of day'
    - Since leaving office in 2017 he has become increasingly outspoken about UFOs
    - Following the release of videos taken by pilots that show ‘unexplained aerial phenomena’ in April, Reid wrote: ‘The American people deserve to be informed'

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ncounters.html


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    Harry Reid Interview With E&E News
    Friday, November 20, 2020


    Question: You were featured in the recent documentary "The Phenomenon," in which you said the U.S. government has been hiding evidence of possible UFO encounters for years. Why do you believe that?

    Reid:
    Well, I've been on the forefront of this for a long time. I obtained $22 million in taxpayer dollars to study these aerial phenomena through the [Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program]. And that was extremely helpful in trying to understand what's going on.

    Do we have all the answers? Absolutely not. But at least we know that thousands of people have reported these unusual occurrences over the decades. And as I have said, we cannot ignore what's going on. Russia, China and France are all working on this. And I hope that we will pick up the ball and continue to work on this.

    I'm happy that the Pentagon now allows its pilots to report these unusual occurrences. In the past, pilots have been afraid to acknowledge them because it could hurt their promotions. So I think the federal government is doing better at recognizing it's something we have to stay on top of. And we have better cameras now with the aircraft, and we've got pictures we didn't have before.

    https://www.eenews.net/stories/1063719061


    I could go on, but I hope I've made my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottsBad View Post
    I don't want to believe in UAP or Extraterrestrial beings, it deeply and profoundly disturbs me. I've wanted the subject to go away for most of my life, and I've been hoping to find an undeniable reason to dismiss the phenomena. So, for about 50 years i've been looking for the reason to dismiss it. But I cannot.
    Personally, I'd be profoundly depressed to learn we are all that exists in this galaxy, much less this universe.
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    Worth a view in the disclosure focus: Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind

    Interesting, but a lot of unsubstantiated claims made:

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12108272/?ref_=ttvi_tt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight Shooter View Post
    That was the one episode of Star Trek voyager I found really interesting. When they met Dinosaurs in space. Dinosaurs who had left Earth because of the impending impact event.

    I know that Star Trek is not news or evidence of anything real, but the reason I mention it is because dinosaurs were on earth for tens of millions of years. The idea that some evolved to a technological level was neat. Given the fact they did have the time to evolve to such an extent. Compared to us the dinosaurs lived a very long time on earth. I think hominids have only been around a few million years, and we have been only around for tens of thousands of years at this point. Maybe it is all earthlings up there in the sky, but not what we would normally think of as earthlings.

    Anyway, I apologize for any thread jacking with my thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    Worth a view in the disclosure focus: Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind

    Interesting, but a lot of unsubstantiated claims made:

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12108272/?ref_=ttvi_tt
    I watched that one on prime a couple weeks back. The light tracking the plant in the room was a little trippy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rushca01 View Post
    I watched that one on prime a couple weeks back. The light tracking the plant in the room was a little trippy.
    Whole lot of it is trippy. The topic of non localized consciousness fascinates me. The random number generator experiments are always interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    Whole lot of it is trippy. The topic of non localized consciousness fascinates me. The random number generator experiments are always interesting.
    If you haven't yet, read about the research of Dr. Dean Radin. He may have been involved in the random number generator experiments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    Personally, I'd be profoundly depressed to learn we are all that exists in this galaxy, much less this universe.
    Oh, I know there is life elsewhere ,and probably everywhere broadly speaking. But if you look at the entirety of the phenomena presenting to us, it is frightening. The power, capability, and breadth/spectrum of type is potentially staggering.

    Again, disclosure has already happened, if you read the few quotes/reporting I listed in my earlier post, its obvious. But, if you expect the Government to come out and do a mea culpa about all the years of coverup, you are delusional.

    Where do we go from here? Well, it depends on the Biden Administration. Tyrants and Leftists are secretive, my guess is that they will clamp down on information and perhaps reinstate the misinformation campaig .

    The silly release of a picture taken from a military jet of what looks exactly like a Mylar Batman balloon is the type of disinformation we've lived with since the late 40's. Are they at it again? Is this part of the clamp down on information we might expect from the Biden idiots?

    Fake UFO pictures than can be easily debunked, will destroy the progress that's been made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiservontexas View Post
    That was the one episode of Star Trek voyager I found really interesting. When they met Dinosaurs in space. Dinosaurs who had left Earth because of the impending impact event.

    I know that Star Trek is not news or evidence of anything real, but the reason I mention it is because dinosaurs were on earth for tens of millions of years. The idea that some evolved to a technological level was neat. Given the fact they did have the time to evolve to such an extent. Compared to us the dinosaurs lived a very long time on earth. I think hominids have only been around a few million years, and we have been only around for tens of thousands of years at this point. Maybe it is all earthlings up there in the sky, but not what we would normally think of as earthlings.

    Anyway, I apologize for any thread jacking with my thought.
    I have said it several times, if we did get visited, most of those travelers probably saw dinosaurs and moved on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    I have said it several times, if we did get visited, most of those travelers probably saw dinosaurs and moved on.
    I was reading that recently a Monkey had his brain "Chipped" now he can operated video games via a Neural Implant. Maybe one of our first bipedal ancestors was strolling across the savanna and was picked up and got a chip implanted and "Dawn of Man."

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