Bill could help bl@ack farmers reclaim millions of acres

[BoringGuy45]

I'd imagine that most black people who aspire to an agricultural life are not the types who will demand that the government give them land.

[26 Inf]

Didn't read the bill, they going to be breaking up corporate farms?

A couple of things come to mind - 160 acres wouldn't be enough to sustain a family in this area.

The guy quoted in the linked story has his heart in the right place, but realistically, farm kids - I'd imagine of all colors - are leaving the farm in droves.

Booker is a moron.

[AndyLate]

Didn't read the bill, they going to be breaking up corporate farms?

A couple of things come to mind - 160 acres wouldn't be enough to sustain a family in this area.

The guy quoted in the linked story has his heart in the right place, but realistically, farm kids - I'd imagine of all colors - are leaving the farm in droves.

Booker is a moron.

Breaking up the large landowners is part of the marxist plan for ending private ownership of property. I'm certain there will be a path for the land to revert to government ownership.

160 acres is not enough to make a living in the Midwest where I grew up, unless you had the capital and water to cover it with greenhouses and grow marijuana.

Andy

[SomeOtherGuy]

I'd imagine that most black people who aspire to an agricultural life are not the types who will demand that the government give them land.

I don't think the sorts of people wanting to acquire a farm - even at little or no cost - are the sorts of people who are inclined to vote for urban Democrats.

We are small, part-time farmers, not even attempting to make a living at it. But we are acquaintances with many other people in the region who are also small-time, with some of them are supposedly trying to make it their living. Unfortunately most of these people are 100% Dem voters, and some of the most enthusiastic (but not brightest) of them are basically socialist. The people I'm thinking of are not bright, but they farm, have kids, and presumably vote. Most people who are trying to get into farming these days have a hippy mentality, even if they are 1-3 generations younger than the Boomers. And they are every bit as wise and well-grounded as your average hippy commune member. Some of them are just as high, too.

We've looked seriously at the economics of farming, both here and elsewhere. In Michigan, at least, it would be hard to make a living at farming even if someone gave you a full section (640 acres / 1 square mile) FREE, and free of taxes. To realistically make a living you need to inherit land and some useful barns and/or equipment, and will need to farm 1000+ acres that you either own or can rent at nominal cost. Even if you have that head start it is a difficult path with long hours and a lot of risk. You need to have expert-level mechanic skills and a willingness to scrounge, find and repair ancient 30-50 year old tractors and other equipment, which you must buy at just above scrap metal value, to make it with even a 1000 acre farm.

You know the saying - "Behind every successful farmer is a wife who works at a job in town."

We know one couple that is somewhat new to farming - their farm was in neither family and purchased by them, but each of them grew up farming - and they are making an OK but modest living with some smart and intensive livestock farming, and of course the wife working a full-time paid job. Even with their facts they are farming c. 2000 acres (mostly rented) and scrounging ancient equipment.

There are some options for specialty farming where you might make a living with much smaller landholdings, but they aren't really scalable or easy, and would become worthless if too many people rushed into doing them.

Many politicians are stupid, but none of them right "their own" legislation. It comes from lobbyists, pressure groups and other special interests. The proposal here is idiotic on its face, but most likely has a land-stealing goal behind it, just like "redistribution" plans in Zimbabwe and S. Africa. Last I knew S. Africa's scheme claimed to pay some sort of fair market value, but the values proposed were tiny fractions of actual FMV.

[Jellybean]

...The Justice for Black Farmers Act, introduced earlier this month by Sen. Cory Booker, D-N.J.

Booker. That's all you need to know about this.
From the mouth of the guy who, during his bid for presidency candidate, came up with the brilliant proposition to tax white people for existing so they could 'reparation' it to the usual suspects.
F**k that guy.
Also apparently he's also shacked up with Rosario Dawson, so f**k her too.

The plan is for government to buy farms from (presumably white people) and give away the farms to black people.

Sure, sure. Just as soon as they 'buy back' all the AsSaUlT WeApOns for 'fair market value' too, right?
I can't wait to see them explain where they're going to get all the money for these massive expenditures, AND do their moronic 'green new deal' AND finish their chip-laden surveillance state, AND hop along off to Mars as a bonus.
Oh, wait, who am I kidding, they own the banks...

SEC. 203. PROVISION OF LAND GRANTS.
(a) IN GENERAL.—The Secretary shall—
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(1) purchase from willing sellers (Mmhmm...I'm sure it will be a deal they can't refuse) , at a price not greater than fair market value (IE, well below market value, but take the deal or we'll make up something to toss you in jail for), available agricultural land in the United States; and

(2) subject to section 205, convey grants of the land to eligible Black individuals at no cost to the eligible Black individuals.
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Farming is tough work, requiring 24/7/365 care. People generally don't take great care of that which they did not pay for nor have any skin in the game. I guess that's why there's protections in the bill that don't allow black farms to fail.... just keep throwing more taxpayer money at it. (Oh yes, this will go well... they're already waffling on providing a Stimulus Round 2 because due to various gov. assistance programs people are on due to being out of work due to the plandemic, they are finding a lot of people unwilling to bother looking for new work, especially if they are making the same/more on the assistance program than at the previous job...)

https://www.booker.senate.gov/imo/me...020%20Bill.pdf

Hmm...wonder if they've ever heard of Lithuania (or literally any other country we let the accursed Red Army 'liberate' during WW2). They did the same thing there... apparently to few farmers owned to much of the 'available agricultural land' so they divided up all the land, divided up all the equipment, and one by one kicked the original farmers off (to Siberia via train. Or just killed them if they made to much of a fuss) while replacing them with groups of 'deserving people'.
Long story short, they did NOT hit their magic 'Five Year Plan' goals...

Oh, and let us not forget mid-60's Africa farm violence, and also current day continuation of such in SA...

Artificially change the demographics of sparsely populated states that are conservative/Republican holdouts. It's no different than dumping thousands of refugees in Idaho during the Obama presidency, it's just much faster.

Andy

...The guy quoted in the linked story has his heart in the right place, but realistically, farm kids - I'd imagine of all colors - are leaving the farm in droves.

Booker is a moron.

No, Booker is a Marxist AND a rabid black supremacist.
But I think it's a little deeper and more subtle than simple demographics, since per previous/current elections, they don't need to go through THIS much specific trouble to attain since they practcally already own that space.
Think about this- they win their happy little urban leftist utopia and commence to writing Just and Fair Laws for All.
Then promptly get cut off from their food supply... Gonna be a short revolution if that happens.
Oh sure, they can probably count on the corporate farms that they own, and also importation since globalization.
But that still leaves a lot of privately white-owned farms out there. And since a mainstay of their "justice for all" program involves legal and physical violence against anything white, well... Once your 'average white guy/gal' realizes all those 'fringe' people weren't so crazy after all, there's going to be pushback. And so, America is a big place, the countryside is generally high-demographic white, and as they say... an army travels on it's stomach...

If you don't think so, hey, maybe I'm wrong. Won't be the first time.
But ICW the previous paragraph about farm troubles, you've probably also missed the propaganda campaign they've been waging over the last several years per "there's to damn many white people in the outdoors" and "equitable access to green space"(paraphrased).

[Grand58742]

I don't think the sorts of people wanting to acquire a farm - even at little or no cost - are the sorts of people who are inclined to vote for urban Democrats.

Yeah, until they start paying taxes on it.

[Grand58742]

I know little of farming other than it's extremely intensive work.

However, it's not just as much to give land away. For a farm to work, there's a lot of expensive machinery involved (tractors ain't cheap) as well as the wells that would need to be dug or improved, irrigation systems, maintenance and upkeep of said equipment, etc, etc etc.

Not even getting into the training and schooling. You can't just toss a random guy out there and expect him (or her) to be able to grow whatever is needed.

Speaking of, what exactly is needed? What crops can or should be grown without oversaturating the market with a certain type of product as it is?

You can give a man 40 acres just fine. Just don't expect it to be productive without a whole lot more capital and studies up front.

[Aries144]

No. The people alive today have nothing whatsoever to do with those that lived almost 200 years ago. No reparations of any kind, ever.

This is another manipulative marxist attack, nothing more. From now on, we will take from them until there is not one marxist left to piss against the wall. We give nothing.

[Jellybean]

....Not even getting into the training and schooling. You can't just toss a random guy out there and expect him (or her) to be able to grow whatever is needed...

Hence the initiatives being started up, spoken about in the article...

No. The people alive today have nothing whatsoever to do with those that lived almost 200 years ago. No reparations of any kind, ever...

The ironic part is, by their own logic, they don't belong here either...

[Averageman]

Reminds me of the joke about farming in general: What's a farmer do with a million dollars? Farms until it's all gone.

I wonder where they are going to get all these black farmers?

Has anyone done a study as to how much in dollars to the hour a farmer earns? Because if that doesn't deter you from a career in farming nothing else will.
My Grandfather started out as a sharecropper and I've worked a lot of agriculture before joining the Military. My worst day in the Military was still better than my best day farming cotton.
Also, I haven't met too many farmers who haven't lost at least a finger or two. The learning curve around farm equipment can be dangerously steep and is occasionally fatal.
So your going to give a farm out in tin-buck-two to some folks with little or no experience in farming and think you are doing a "Good" thing for them?

My own personal version of hell would be working on a Dairy Farm for eternity.