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    Quote Originally Posted by ViniVidivici View Post
    Shoot it at 100, and try a different, known match grade load. Some guns are picky, but I would say that combo should be shooting tighter than 3" at 50 yards.

    Shoot it at 100 with off the shelf ammo and a known good mounted scope, then let someone else do the same. There are just too many variables with home cooked ammo and a RDO.
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    Here is a bit of advice about accuracy: Ignore people talking about their group sizes on the internet. Its akin to people talking about their dick size, everyone is a sub MOA stud on the internet.

    Your first hint of bullsh*t is people talking about shooting 1-2 MOA with M193. If someone like Molon can't get M193 to group better than 3 MOA then you can imagine the validity of random people on the internet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vicious_cb View Post
    Here is a bit of advice about accuracy: Ignore people talking about their group sizes on the internet. Its akin to people talking about their dick size, everyone is a sub MOA stud on the internet.

    Your first hint of bullsh*t is people talking about shooting 1-2 MOA with M193. If someone like Molon can't get M193 to group better than 3 MOA then you can imagine the validity of random people on the internet.



    100% yes.

    Guys claiming to get submoa with their generic ammo is garbage. Ammo manufacturers are not supplying premium ammo and pretending its range fodder.
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    Molon's data is wonderful as it is statistically relevant with true n of 10 data points, repeated 3 times each, and aggregated. I love his dedication to providing true valid expectations for a given load and rifle combination. When applied, I quickly realized that I don't own any rifle that is truly MOA and my shooting and reloading precision requires fine tuning. The bottom line? Shoot more than 3 or 5 rounds. Do it multiple times. Evaluate with an unbiased eye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krazykarl View Post
    Molon's data is wonderful as it is statistically relevant with true n of 10 data points, repeated 3 times each, and aggregated. I love his dedication to providing true valid expectations for a given load and rifle combination. When applied, I quickly realized that I don't own any rifle that is truly MOA and my shooting and reloading precision requires fine tuning. The bottom line? Shoot more than 3 or 5 rounds. Do it multiple times. Evaluate with an unbiased eye.
    Keeping track of group averages over time is good. But you can get rather good approximations of larger groups by extrapolating from 3 or 5 shot groups. Larue posted this a while ago and I’ve found it is a pretty good predictor of dispersion over larger sets of shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vicious_cb View Post
    Here is a bit of advice about accuracy: Ignore people talking about their group sizes on the internet. Its akin to people talking about their dick size, everyone is a sub MOA stud on the internet.

    Your first hint of bullsh*t is people talking about shooting 1-2 MOA with M193. If someone like Molon can't get M193 to group better than 3 MOA then you can imagine the validity of random people on the internet.

    Absolutely, unequivocally the most accurate statement I have seen on the erronet in a long time. Should be a sticky.

    Cheers, Steve

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