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    Look for videos of African hunters shooting a charging lion. It takes balls of steel, incredible accuracy for a CNS ( the only thing that will drop it in its tracks ) shot on a charging animal and a capable round. My point is this is a lot harder to do successfully than what most people think. Especially so if you are not ready for it, which you won’t be if just hanging out on your property and not actually hunting.

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    Talk with the local game warden on suggestions for making your property less attractive to bears

    Get a big, alert protective dog. This will give early warning of a bears presence, most bears avoid dogs, and will provide a distraction for a bear that doesn’t avoid a dog. Hopefully giving time to get to safety.

    Rifles, fast handing one in an substantial caliber with dangerous game bullets rule, but you can’t carry all the time. A 44mag or bigger cal wheel gun is a 1st choice for manny but are heavy, and difficult to shoot for most people. A friend who lives in Alaska tells me that 10 mm 1911s with Corbons are a popular choice for this purpose. This could easily be carried and is easier to shoot that a 44 mag.

    Mount some bear sprays on the outside of the barn like a fire extinguisher to keep them handy.
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    I just can't deal with that.
    First, don't forget Mr. Bear and his family was there long before you and yours.

    Things happen and you may have to do what you have to do, but don't go looking for an excuse.

    Second, be aware of your state's laws. In Colorado if you shoot a bear in self defense you still have to contact DFW and turn over the pelt, paws and gallbladder... you also aren't allowed to let the carcass go to waste.

    Third, for self defense from a bear, a shotgun with slugs should be fine. If Mr. Bear is too far away for that he doesn't need to be shot.

    Fourth, talk with local fish and wildlife types to get a better understanding of how to live with wild animals including bear. Thousands hike and camp in bear country all the time with no problems. Bears that become unafraid of humans can be very dangerous, a neighbor had one bash in the kitchen door and help himself to the refrigerator, but most don't do that and will generally flee from humans.

    Breaking into a car with food in it at night is common, doing it in daylight with humans present much less so.

    Get a big, alert protective dog. This will give early warning of a bears presence, most bears avoid dogs, and will provide a distraction for a bear that doesn’t avoid a dog.
    If you do, remember the dog is expendable in this scenario. You got it to protect you and yours, it does no good if you don't take advantage of that when the time comes. Getting a dog to protect you and then getting mauled trying to protect the dog is pointless.
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    30-06 is plenty of gun for a medium sized bear. Use a good bullet, like a 180gr, know where it shoots, and learn (if you haven't already) to work the bolt quickly from the shoulder. If you got a bear closing in from 50 you may need to get off multiple shots. On a moving target you may not get optimum shot placement.

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    Personally, I would use my AR-10 -- since I am not sure at what angle my shot may come, and how many rounds I might need. .308Win is not quite 30-06, but it's close, and we're not talking coastal brown bears.

    How about a Garand? Or a Browning BAR? Having been under stress, trying to cycle a bolt, I am not a huge fan of bolt guns for predator "hunting". I'd even give up capacity and take a proper double rifle over a bolt gun in that regard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVAN View Post
    Personally, I would use my AR-10 -- since I am not sure at what angle my shot may come, and how many rounds I might need. .308Win is not quite 30-06, but it's close, and we're not talking coastal brown bears.

    How about a Garand? Or a Browning BAR? Having been under stress, trying to cycle a bolt, I am not a huge fan of bolt guns for predator "hunting". I'd even give up capacity and take a proper double rifle over a bolt gun in that regard.
    Why not an AR-10 in .30-06? I know Noreen makes an upper for it... and for a while was doodling out a "bigger, meaner Mk 18" based on that URG and AP M2 ball.
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    The OP has not told us if this is a brown bear or a black bear. I have had dozens of encounters with black bears and they usually can be driven off by banging two pans together. Hey, my wife did it. A brown bear, a grizzly bear, is a whole other animal. I have had no experience with them and don't want any. But I would take the largest caliber weapon available and expect multiple shots to kill it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Bullseye View Post
    The OP has not told us if this is a brown bear or a black bear. I have had dozens of encounters with black bears and they usually can be driven off by banging two pans together. Hey, my wife did it. A brown bear, a grizzly bear, is a whole other animal. I have had no experience with them and don't want any. But I would take the largest caliber weapon available and expect multiple shots to kill it.
    He's in Vermont, so it's a black bear

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Bullseye View Post
    The OP has not told us if this is a brown bear or a black bear. I have had dozens of encounters with black bears and they usually can be driven off by banging two pans together. Hey, my wife did it. A brown bear, a grizzly bear, is a whole other animal. I have had no experience with them and don't want any. But I would take the largest caliber weapon available and expect multiple shots to kill it.
    Don't think there's been a griz seen in VT in 100+ years and weight he listed was big for a black bear, small for a griz. Only a few states CONUS like Montana, Wyoming have Griz these days.
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    Having run into multiple black bears myself, i agree with what the others have said that you should probably start by calling the local Fish and Game office to see if they can relocate the bear.

    If you want a gun you can actually carry all the time, large caliber revolvers can be hard to shoot well, and only hold 5 rounds. I would suggest looking at a 10mm Glock 20 with 200gr hardcast bullets. I spend a lot of time in the Utah outdoors, and have come face to face with multiple bears, moose, and a few mountain lions, and I carry a 10mm Glock 20 with 200gr hardcast solid ammo from DoubleTap or Underwood. That will give you 16 rounds instead of 5, in a gun that is easier to shoot than a magnum caliber revolver. And a 10mm will easily do the job for black bear. A 30-06 will kill the bear, but a 10mm is much easier to carry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    Only a few states CONUS like Montana, Wyoming have Griz these days.
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