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    WML on a third generation Glock 23

    Is is possible to put a WML on a third generation Glock 23 without compromising reliability?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disciple View Post
    Is is possible to put a WML on a third generation Glock 23 without compromising reliability?
    Yes. Best practice...

    install 11-coil springs in standard capacity G23 magazines
    don't over-tighten the light on the frame
    use standard velocity 180gr rounds
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    Quote Originally Posted by ST911 View Post
    Yes. Best practice...

    install 11-coil springs in standard capacity G23 magazines
    don't over-tighten the light on the frame
    use standard velocity 180gr rounds
    Never had any problems in about 20k with a 23.3. Never upgraded mag springs.

    Finger tight plus a quarter turn and done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ggammell View Post
    Never had any problems in about 20k with a 23.3. Never upgraded mag springs.

    Finger tight plus a quarter turn and done.
    Understood. Best practice, not required practice.

    And that info was Glock's advice to users that were experiencing .40/WML combination issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ST911 View Post
    Understood. Best practice, not required practice.

    And that info was Glock's advice to users that were experiencing .40/WML combination issues.
    Absolutely it was.
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    Disciple, just be aware that some 40 cal Glocks that are reliable with weapon mounted lights develop into being unreliable with weapon mounted lights.

    I have had good and bad experiences with multiple 40 cal Glocks and WMLs over the years. I don't want to go into it. But the information I mentioned above is something you should be aware of.

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    Are there lights to avoid, or ones that are known to work better?

    Joe Mamma, I understand that you "don't want to go into it" but is there anything in particular I should watch for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ST911 View Post
    install 11-coil springs in standard capacity G23 magazines
    Any advice on using G22 and extended 22 round magazines in a G23?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disciple View Post
    Are there lights to avoid, or ones that are known to work better?

    Joe Mamma, I understand that you "don't want to go into it" but is there anything in particular I should watch for?
    It seems like the Streamlight TLR lights have the most problems. However, that may simply be because there may be more of them being used than other brands/models, or their users are just more vocal.

    Just keep in mind that there are probably 2 issues with using WMLs in Glock 40 cal guns: additional weight, and increased frame stiffness in that area (due to how various lights attach). If I were picking a new light, I would consider both of these issues.

    Just so we are on the same page, the general consensus with this problem is that the slide speed under recoil is too fast for the next round being pushed up in the magazine. So you can go with commercial rounds that have a relatively heavy bullet (like the 180 gr that ST911 mentioned above), which usually results in slower slide speed, or a stiffer magazine spring, or a stiffer recoil spring. However, these don't always solve it.

    Other things to consider are ammo type (rough steel cases, brass cases, or slick nickel plated cases) and how dirty the insides of your magazines are. This can contribute to increased friction and slow down the feeding of the next fresh round when shooting.

    I hope this is helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disciple View Post
    Any advice on using G22 and extended 22 round magazines in a G23?
    Only the usual, verify function with chosen combination. If using a G22 magazine in a WML-equipped G23, I would put the 11 coil springs in the mags.

    As ggammell notes, it may not be necessary.
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