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Thread: Shipping an 80% lower

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    Hey boss trying to get ahold of you about the upper the slick upper you have posted I’ve messaged you twice you said me in post but can’t find a Emil please get ahold of me ASAP thank you


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    Quote Originally Posted by korosenai View Post
    Hey boss trying to get ahold of you about the upper the slick upper you have posted I’ve messaged you twice you said me in post but can’t find a Emil please get ahold of me ASAP thank you


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    Shipping an 80% lower

    I think a jury would have a tough time convicting someone who shipped an incomplete 80% lower.

    I doubt there are many prosecutors who would take such a case to court.

    But what do I know, I’m in non-compliance mode right now anyway.

    It isn’t a firearm until it is a firearm.
    Last edited by HKGuns; 12-22-21 at 07:41.

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    There is a "solid" determination by the ATF that the stage commonly referred to as "80%" is not a firearm. Those can be shipped without any concern, as others have posted.

    There is also a solid definition of a completed receiver. Which is a firearm, and must be treated as such.

    Anything between these two points is questionable. There has been action taken by ATF, and some amount of case precedent. Most have been settled by agreements and pleas. Very soft legal ground.

    As others have said, anything beyond "industry standard" of the so called "80%" standard is risky. That way lay dragons. Dragons in bullet proof vests and blue jackets.

    Gotta wonder though. If an 80% is fully machined out, but done so poorly that it can never be completed, is it still a firearm?
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    Its an old thread, but what people are debating is whether or not they can send a piece of metal (aluminum) to someone else. Take the 80% out of the equation, because it is a less than legitimate term.
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    Hey doc just wanted to apologize I don’t realize my messages was full if your not busy please get in contact with me I sent you another message and my number as well if that will help any but I look forward to hearing from you thank you for your time and I do apologize


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