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Thread: Do AR companies accept payment for “skipping to the front”?

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    Do AR companies accept payment for “skipping to the front”?

    Really interested in buying a certain rifle from a large, quality manufacturer but there is a 4-6 month backorder.

    Is it common in the AR industry to accept payment to get to the front of the line? I’ve noticed some 1911 smiths and a lot of custom accessory makers do it, but none of the big AR guys make a note of it at least publicly.

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    None will that I’m aware of, or right now everyone would be doing it.
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    That starts to smack of Geissele's debacle from Black Friday of 2019. They bit off more than they could chew production-wise, and once the sale was over they publicly admitted that anyone paying full price would take precedent over those who bought at the sale price when it came to shipping priority as stuff came back into stock. Bullshit if you ask me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    That starts to smack of Geissele's debacle from Black Friday of 2019. They bit off more than they could chew production-wise, and once the sale was over they publicly admitted that anyone paying full price would take precedent over those who bought at the sale price when it came to shipping priority as stuff came back into stock. Bullshit if you ask me.
    That’s a bit different. That’s just Geissele being a typical gun company - Retarded, half assed and thinking customers are ok waiting for ages on backordered products.

    I’m speaking to a specific “Pay $1,000 now and we’ll have your rifle in 3 weeks” option. The option would be available to all those who are currently on the wait list - not something I believe Geissele offered to the customers they decided to screw over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    That’s a bit different. That’s just Geissele being a typical gun company - Retarded, half assed and thinking customers are ok waiting for ages on backordered products.

    I’m speaking to a specific “Pay $1,000 now and we’ll have your rifle in 3 weeks” option. The option would be available to all those who are currently on the wait list - not something I believe Geissele offered to the customers they decided to screw over.
    I doubt you'd get a company to publicly admit to offering something like that. I mean I guess they could, but the optics wouldn't be favorable. There is also the possibility that someone contacting them to ask such a question might turn right around and drop a dime on 'em with social media being what it is. Especially if they had an actual email correspondence to document it.

    If it was done it would have to be stated right up front as a payment option on their website, and even then there would be butthurt abounding. I just don't think it would be a good idea for business relations with the buying public.

    Now if they were local I guess you could show up and slide a few Ben Franklins across the counter to, uh, speed things up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    Really interested in buying a certain rifle from a large, quality manufacturer but there is a 4-6 month backorder.

    Is it common in the AR industry to accept payment to get to the front of the line? I’ve noticed some 1911 smiths and a lot of custom accessory makers do it, but none of the big AR guys make a note of it at least publicly.

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    Closest I've seen is, I don't recall where but a couple shops have offered "I Can Wait" discounts at times for folks willing to step to the back of the line in high-demand times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    Really interested in buying a certain rifle from a large, quality manufacturer but there is a 4-6 month backorder.

    Is it common in the AR industry to accept payment to get to the front of the line? I’ve noticed some 1911 smiths and a lot of custom accessory makers do it, but none of the big AR guys make a note of it at least publicly.

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    Likely more than you would imagine are willing if the right person is asked and the money is 'right'. Money talks...


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    Quote Originally Posted by DG23 View Post
    Likely more than you would imagine are willing if the right person is asked and the money is 'right'. Money talks...


    Impatience is going to cost you though.
    And BS walks baby!

    Hell Euro, go for it!
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    When you say large, quality manufacturer...I get a little suspicious.
    Most large, quality manufacturers are not taking back orders because their production is maxed out for at least the next 18 mos.
    The forecasted POs from your large distributors, retailers, and even brick and mortar dealers leaves virtually no room for backorders.

    We're legitimately at 100% capacity and I dont anticipate expanding that capacity. I can probably tell you down to the detent what parts are already spoken for in December 2021.

    Make sure the guys you're ordering a rifle from aren't running a ponzi scheme. Personally, I wouldn't take someone's money upfront for something I hope will work out in 6mos with all the uncertainty we have in this industry.

    I suppose if you paid a premium and got it tomorrow that protects you... although if they were a large, quality manufacturer you could probably just buy one of their rifles on gun broker for the same premium...

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