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    Let us encourage perspective over panic

    Panic and overreaction are often the driving force of mankind's greatest tragedies. A couple of examples:
    - Following years of escalating tension, the assassination of a minor noble caused reactionary rhetoric and threats to grow into overreaction and fear. Ultimately resulting in World War One.
    - Panic and overreaction, coupled with mismanagement on the part of the Federal Reserve, created the Great Depression out of what should have been a far less traumatic recession.

    I will certainly not claim that there are not genuine bad actors helping to drive such events, but it was fear, panic, and overreaction that tipped the scales. What would have been wildfires grew out of control and became firestorms spanning the whole of the world.

    I BELIEVE THAT SUCH A TIME IS NOW UPON US.

    There are certainly bad actors, on many fronts, attempting to fan the flames of chaos and destruction. There are a great many good, everyday, "common man" types being influenced and pushed towards choosing an extreme. Those bad actors, on the extremes of every group, have one thing in common. They are all more than willing to sacrifice you to achieve their goals.

    Never forget that the majority, hopefully a small majority, of politicians, administrators, and bureaucrats TRULY WANT a massive authoritarian government. An "R" or a "D" means nothing to many of them. Those are simply paths they chose to follow believing one held an advantage for THEM. The oft used analogy of political theatre being nothing but "professional wrestling" for the voters holds a lot of truth. No matter their party, most have public "characters" that they play. That "character" may have nothing in common with the "actor". The "hero" may slay the "dragon" on the set of the movie, but then the actors playing both parts go have a beer. Your real attachment to the characters means nothing to the actors.

    I do not claim that there is no real conflict. There is. Much like there is a real pandemic. However, every point of real contention is being wielded like a weapon in order to inflame the masses. Despite the actual toll of the virus, even Covid is more dangerous as a weapon than it is as a disease.

    We, collectively as the citizens of this nation, do need to seize the reins. Not through violence, or revolt, or really not even by protest. We need to seize the reins of our own perception. The political puppet show has only the power we allow it to have. Yes, there is the real power of the government, but the power of the drama is the choice of the audience.
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    Soooo....
    If I merely keep a positive attitude, none of those unconstitutional bills in the House can't possibly come to pass?

    GTFOH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gaijin View Post
    Soooo....
    If I merely keep a positive attitude, none of those unconstitutional bills in the House can't possibly come to pass?

    GTFOH.
    Not at all what I said.

    But those proposed bills are not an existential threat. They are proposals. I am not saying to go silent. I am saying to USE YOUR VOICE PRODUCTIVELY. Boogeyman are usually more fearsome than the real threat they stand for.

    I'm not saying to ignore anything.
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    So slow is smooth and smooth is fast? Remember the calm so as to stay totally rational?
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    We The People are not the panic or the problem. The the Political Ruling Class are. You want to see panic and overreaction? Watch the House debating Trump Impeachment 2.0 right now. The histrionic hyperbole coming out of the Democrats (and a few weak willed Republicans) is astounding in scope and scale. You'd swear that last week they survived (barely) the ISIS capture of Mosul and Trump is in fact al-Baghdadi himself.

    Their hubris and arrogance are the biggest threat our nation faces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiservontexas View Post
    So slow is smooth and smooth is fast? Remember the calm so as to stay totally rational?
    Exactly. Like in "If"- keep your head while those around you are losing theirs.

    Quote Originally Posted by glocktogo View Post
    We The People are not the panic or the problem. The the Political Ruling Class are. You want to see panic and overreaction? Watch the House debating Trump Impeachment 2.0 right now. The histrionic hyperbole coming out of the Democrats (and a few weak willed Republicans) is astounding in scope and scale. You'd swear that last week they survived (barely) the ISIS capture of Mosul and Trump is in fact al-Baghdadi himself.

    Their hubris and arrogance the biggest threat our nation faces.
    Laugh at them. An insurrection to overthrow the govt, but they were unarmed? How many bombs went off and how many guns were shot? That's like an orgy with out any chicks.

    They can only win if they provoke us to become the bogeymen that they say we are. Everytime they cry 'wolf' and nothing happens, weakens their stance.

    I get it. These are attacks on the normal order, on the people that love this country the most- and their evil leaders are pressing your button. It's bad, it instantly goes to worse if we lash out.

    I think the WWI analogy is perfect, and at least doesn't include NAZIs for once. I think the majority of the left don't realize how close they are to setting things off with a fairly large swath of people. On the right, those looking to act don't have a plan for after the first 30 seconds. That's not good.
    The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.

    It's that simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    I think the majority of the left don't realize how close they are to setting things off with a fairly large swath of people. On the right, those looking to act don't have a plan for after the first 30 seconds. That's not good.
    Well said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by utahjeepr View Post
    Not at all what I said.

    Don't worry. LOTS of people understood you the first time. They are the ones who didn't feel the need to add anything or take issue with anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post

    I think the WWI analogy is perfect, and at least doesn't include NAZIs for once. I think the majority of the left don't realize how close they are to setting things off with a fairly large swath of people. On the right, those looking to act don't have a plan for after the first 30 seconds. That's not good.
    The other problem is, on the right, you have a thousand different splinter groups each with their own specific plan.
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    Positive energy is great and all, but......

    What are you gonna do/say when the illegitimate/fraudulently "elected" government begins to pass laws which make you a criminal for what you own, take your $$$ for idiotic "climate change", redistribute your $$$ to the sloths and undeserving (even more so than already happens), etc.? What then? By all rights it should not happen because it isn't legit.

    I, and millions of other people, are gonna have a REALLY hard time swallowing edicts from a fraudulently empowered government.

    So just keep a stiff upper lip? GTFO
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    Positive energy is great and all, but......

    What are you gonna do/say when the illegitimate/fraudulently "elected" government begins to pass laws which make you a criminal for what you own, take your $$$ for idiotic "climate change", redistribute your $$$ to the sloths and undeserving (even more so than already happens), etc.? What then? By all rights it should not happen because it isn't legit.

    I, and millions of other people, are gonna have a REALLY hard time swallowing edicts from a fraudulently empowered government.

    So just keep a stiff upper lip? GTFO
    I think the goal of coming up with a coherent plan rather than just running around willy nilly is what is being proposed.

    I'll only add that while this isn't going to be a fun four years, we did survive Clinton and Obama. We all thought Obama was going to be the end times and the coming of radicalized socialism for all...and we certainly didn't get out unscathed...I still get fined each year for not having health insurance. That's a bit like fining homeless people for not having a home.

    The sick irony is if I actually was given all of my money, including income tax, I could probably afford health insurance.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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