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    Thoughts on Patriotism

    I didn't want to dump in another post, so...

    We are told that patriots recognize the results of an election by the same politicians and media outlets who are doing everything possible to destroy a sitting president.

    We are told that patriots honor elections by the same people trying to remove elected members of congress from office.

    We are told peaceful protesters are not patriots because a mob decided to storm the capital.

    We may truly be screwed as a constitutional republic.

    Andy

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    We are told a lot of things. Sometimes the "Patriotic" approach requires group-think; a kind of collective thought process the American left also uses. I take a stance that the United States was founded on the Rights of the Individual, not a collective group.

    I choose to be an Individual, with thinking based on my upbringing, personal history and environment. That's the process which allows me to be "Patriotic" without letting anyone else define me. That means within my individuality, I still like President Donald Trump, and I hate Communists.
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    Just waiting for the shooting to start in earnest so I'm not the "test case."

    We are still in that awkward stage. It will either happen or it won't.

    Adapt to the situation and prepare for developments.

    Mike & the Mechanics knew the deal.

    Silent Running
    Mike + The Mechanics

    Take the children and yourself
    And hide out in the cellar
    By now the fighting will be close at hand
    Don't believe the church and state
    And everything they tell you
    Believe in me, I'm with the high command
    Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
    Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
    Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
    Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
    There's a gun and ammunition
    Just inside the doorway
    Use it only in emergency
    Better you should pray to God
    The Father and the Spirit
    Will guide you and protect from up here
    Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
    Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
    Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
    Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
    Swear allegiance to the flag
    Whatever flag they offer
    Never hint at what you really feel
    Teach the children quietly
    For some day sons and daughters
    Will rise up and fight while we stood still
    Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
    Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
    Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
    Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
    Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
    Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
    Can you hear me running (can you hear me calling you?)
    (Can you hear me) hear me calling you?
    (Can you hear me running) hear me running babe?
    (Can you hear me running) hear me running?
    Calling you, calling you.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Just waiting for the shooting to start in earnest so I'm not the "test case."

    We are still in that awkward stage. It will either happen or it won't.

    Adapt to the situation and prepare for developments.

    Mike & the Mechanics knew the deal.

    Silent Running
    Mike + The Mechanics

    Take the children and yourself
    And hide out in the cellar
    By now the fighting will be close at hand
    Don't believe the church and state
    And everything they tell you
    Believe in me, I'm with the high command
    Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
    Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
    Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
    Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
    There's a gun and ammunition
    Just inside the doorway
    Use it only in emergency
    Better you should pray to God
    The Father and the Spirit
    Will guide you and protect from up here
    Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
    Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
    Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
    Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
    Swear allegiance to the flag
    Whatever flag they offer
    Never hint at what you really feel
    Teach the children quietly
    For some day sons and daughters
    Will rise up and fight while we stood still
    Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
    Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
    Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
    Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
    Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
    Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
    Can you hear me running (can you hear me calling you?)
    (Can you hear me) hear me calling you?
    (Can you hear me running) hear me running babe?
    (Can you hear me running) hear me running?
    Calling you, calling you.
    DAMN IT MAN. Ive been listening to this A LOT lately.
    In the coming..whatever it will be, we cannot pay ANY attention to media whatsoever. Matter of fact, Im on a personal mission to try to convince anyone I can that the leftist media is & should be TARGET #1- PRIORITY #1 in any turmoil going foward.
    They are THE root cause of nearly every problem in America now & have been for at least 30 years..if not 50.
    Theyve given voice to & supported every left wing ideology, politician, theyve outright lied & propagandized now way past the point theres no doubt they are the #1 enemy of the very Constitution theyve hidden behind. Theyve swayed voters with lies...and what theyve done to Trump is unprecedented. They MUST be held accountable.
    Take away the lefts mouthpiece & means of comm to get out their Godless agenda, and they are neutered. And let it be know those who STILL insist on doing what theye done will pay a dear price for it. As theyve done to conservatives for years now- they should never, ever again feel safe or peaceful or relaxed outside their homes again. They should fear even opening their doors, in my opinion.
    I loathe them with a passion I cannot put in to words accrurately. They have RUINED America by dumbing down genration after generation to the point its un-recoverable now. You cannot exxplain ANYTHING to someone under 30. Just last night at work I tried to explain why the "stimulus money" is a long term bad deal. All I heard back was..quote.."I dont giveafuk 'bout none of dat..I want my check". It maddening.
    And Im gonna HAVE to work on letting it go-because its only gonna get worse & worse. To be alive during the fall aint something I thought Id EVER live to see.
    Last edited by Straight Shooter; 01-15-21 at 19:16.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight Shooter View Post
    DAMN IT MAN. Ive been listening to this A LOT lately.
    In the coming..whatever it will be, we cannot pay ANY attention to media whatsoever. Matter of fact, Im on a personal mission to try to convince anyone I can that the leftist media is & should be TARGET #1- PRIORITY #1 in any turmoil going foward.
    They are THE root cause of nearly every problem in America now & have been for at least 30 years..if not 50.
    Theyve given voice to & supported every left wing ideology, politician, theyve outright lied & propagandized now way past the point theres no doubt they are the #1 enemy of the very Constitution theyve hidden behind. Theyve swayed voters with lies...and what theyve done to Trump is unprecedented. They MUST be held accountable.
    Take away the lefts mouthpiece & means of comm to get out their Godless agenda, and they are neutered. And let it be know those who STILL insist on doing what theye done will pay a dear price for it. As theyve done to conservatives for years now- they should never, ever again feel safe or peaceful or relaxed outside their homes again. They should fear even opening their doors, in my opinion.
    I loathe them with a passion I cannot put in to words accrurately. They have RUINED America by dumbing down genration after generation to the point its un-recoverable now. You cannot exxplain ANYTHING to someone under 30. Just last night at work I tried to explain why the "stimulus money" is a long term bad deal. All I heard back was..quote.."I dont giveafuk 'bout none of dat..I want my check". It maddening.
    And Im gonna HAVE to work on letting it go-because its only gonna get worse & worse. To be alive during the fall aint something I thought Id EVER live to see.
    Spot on, I agree with most of this, although I don't think the media is responsible for this any more than leftist academia. Leftism is like cancer, treat it if you can, but cut it out to save your life when you must. The media, academia, and our government are infected with leftism. And this has been going on for WAY longer than 50 years.

    The way that the swing to the left for the media has accelerated in the past 4 years has been staggering. Their bias is so obvious now that I cannot respect anyone who doesn't see it. Years go, long before 2016, I told people that I felt like choosing what news outlet to use was picking your favorite liar.

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    Patriotism is kinda like pornography to me. It is hard to define but you know it when you see it. The Left is unpatriotic and un-American and they will destroy this country, obliterate your history and heritage, enslave you, your children and grandchildren. Their media and social media are subhuman scum.

    Now each of us should do what we can and what we are capable of doing and oppose The Traitor and the usurped, occupied America we once loved. This means a total, full court press of resistance--we are at war. Nothing should be off the table. Every day something should done to damage The Traitor,
    The Whore, Speaker Bitchi, the media, the social media, the swamp, the FBI, CIA, NSA, etc. All blue state governments should be resisted at every turn. So when you get a traffic ticket, go to trial. If you owe no federal tax, don't even file. Refuse to give hostile government(s) your personal information. Get off hostile social media. Refuse the Farce Mask, the test and the vax. Tell them to **** off publicly, over and over.

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    Politicians and the msm are liars. They serve their own interests and attempt to manipulate everything.
    You won't outvote the corruption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Just waiting for the shooting to start in earnest so I'm not the "test case."

    We are still in that awkward stage. It will either happen or it won't.

    Adapt to the situation and prepare for developments.

    Mike & the Mechanics knew the deal.

    Silent Running
    Mike + The Mechanics

    Take the children and yourself
    And hide out in the cellar
    By now the fighting will be close at hand
    Don't believe the church and state
    And everything they tell you
    Believe in me, I'm with the high command
    Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
    Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
    Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
    Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
    There's a gun and ammunition
    Just inside the doorway
    Use it only in emergency
    Better you should pray to God
    The Father and the Spirit
    Will guide you and protect from up here
    Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
    Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
    Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
    Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
    Swear allegiance to the flag
    Whatever flag they offer
    Never hint at what you really feel
    Teach the children quietly
    For some day sons and daughters
    Will rise up and fight while we stood still
    Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
    Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
    Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
    Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
    Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
    Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
    Can you hear me running (can you hear me calling you?)
    (Can you hear me) hear me calling you?
    (Can you hear me running) hear me running babe?
    (Can you hear me running) hear me running?
    Calling you, calling you.
    Means a lot now doesn't it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by recon View Post
    Means a lot now doesn't it.
    Good thing it had that pop / synth sound with carefully blended lyrics and crazy new wave imagery or it would have never played on Mtv or radio. I remember making my friends actually listen for the words and it used to blow their damn minds.

    Of course we were the generation who were gonna Red Dawn the Russians if they ever got here, were fully prepared to take on cyborgs from the future and all of that. Even if we were overly naive about our capabilities, there was no question of if we were gonna fight...but how we were gonna fight even if we ended up starting as the underdogs.

    They talk about propaganda, but early mid 80s it was there and it wasn't communists they were trying to create. As kids The Waltons and Little House was our basic standard of normality, by high school we really thought we might be carrier pilots if we only applied ourselves and drove our motorcycles recklessly. Even the left was in on it to an extent, I know more than a few people who joined the military after too many viewing of "Stripes" and that was Harold Ramis and Bill Murray for god sakes.

    But that was just the mentality of the time.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

    كافر

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Good thing it had that pop / synth sound with carefully blended lyrics and crazy new wave imagery or it would have never played on Mtv or radio. I remember making my friends actually listen for the words and it used to blow their damn minds.

    Of course we were the generation who were gonna Red Dawn the Russians if they ever got here, were fully prepared to take on cyborgs from the future and all of that. Even if we were overly naive about our capabilities, there was no question of if we were gonna fight...but how we were gonna fight even if we ended up starting as the underdogs.

    They talk about propaganda, but early mid 80s it was there and it wasn't communists they were trying to create. As kids The Waltons and Little House was our basic standard of normality, by high school we really thought we might be carrier pilots if we only applied ourselves and drove our motorcycles recklessly. Even the left was in on it to an extent, I know more than a few people who joined the military after too many viewing of "Stripes" and that was Harold Ramis and Bill Murray for god sakes.

    But that was just the mentality of the time.
    I literally just added this to my playlist last week after having forgotten about it for many years. That and a lot of blues music. Seemed appropriate for the times we find ourselves in.
    What if this whole crusade's a charade?
    And behind it all there's a price to be paid
    For the blood which we dine
    Justified in the name of the holy and the divine…

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