Will Biden's Presidency Be A Catalyst For Secession... Or Worse?

[prepare]

I have NO desire to change a liberal/leftist/communists/socialists mind at all. I have a DEEP, BURNING desire for them to experiance great physical pain & suffering each time they try to make me bend to their will. When theyve felt enough, & KNOW that every time they try to force certain people to do their bidding great pain, bodily harm or death will happen- that shit will stop ASAP. Until they experiance consequences, this left wing mess will continue.
How do you keep Federal Agents out? See above.

You are 100% correct. And this solution will not come from government.

[ScottsBad]

You cannot have a corrupt Government, and expect a large percentage of Americans to just go along with it.

You can't censor half of America and expect peace.

You cannot call one group racist and remove their rights.

You cannot run over the Constitution and our freedoms and think that peace will be the result.

Its not the Right that's the problem, we just want our God Given Rights and a sensible Government. We are loosing both.

It could very well get ugly.

[ScottsBad]

I don't think anyone has the balls for secession in earnest.

Just like now one has the balls for Civil War Dos.

I don't think we are that far from some pretty radical steps to be taken by certain States. Maybe not straight up secession, but ignoring Federal law is already happening. You have Idaho as a sanctuary 2A State, and towns in Idaho doubling down on that.

Texas is moving the same way. If they left keeps pushing it, we could see some tense times. I've begun research, about which country we may move to!

If the direction we are heading in doesn't change, by 2030 I expect we will be fully socialist, or some version of socialist, with a surveillance state that can tell you how to live. We will be heading toward complete Communism.

- They will have implemented a "social rating" score. Free speech will be completely eliminated. We will be spied on by the Gov., our neighbors, AND our family. Your speech will get you sanctioned. If they cannot re-train you, you might disappear one night.

- They will tell you where you can go and cannot go with self driving and electric cars. You will not be able to own your own car, you will "share"

- There will be no more cash and they will track and control how you spend your money. How much energy you can use, what type of living arrangements you can have.

- You will not be allowed to own property.

- Government will control the medical system completely. You won't be allowed to participate in dangerous activities. Medical care will be rationed, because doctors will not be free to charge for their time and education. Medical advances will slow to a crawl. If you are too old, you won't get the expensive treatments for cancer and other illnesses, they will put you inline like they do in Canada where people die waiting for treatment.

- They will tell you what you may eat.

- Traveling for pleasure will be a thing of the past.

- You will be given a job, not based on your capability and merit, but based on your identity and loyalty to the Government.


It will be worse than 1984, A Brave New Wold, and Animal Farm combined.

A civil war sounds better to me than to die a slave to these Leftist Democrat creeps.

[Honu]

I don't think anyone has the balls for secession in earnest.

Just like now one has the balls for Civil War Dos.

agree
they wont even cancel the cancel culture stuff they whine about ? again we are way to comfy still

[TomMcC]

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[ABNAK]

It’s not 1861. Everyone thinks they are a bad ass until they see 25 of their friends get liquified by something dropped from the sky.

Going to the range in your size 40 wranglers is quite different than getting shot at by someone that actually wants to kill you.

And there won’t be WiFi either.

Surely you realize that the sword of which you speak is double-edged, no? Cutting wouldn't occur in a one-sided manor. Everyone would eat a shit pie. Tit-for-tat would be the order of the day. Gonna go out and kill you some bad-guy scumbags (no matter which side you'd be on)? When you finally get home and it's burned to the ground with your family in it then that day's hunt may not have been worth it. You are 100% correct about it not being 1861....then there was at least a modicum of "chivalry". That is l-o-n-g since gone.

Let us fervently hope things don't deteriorate to that point, as no one will escape it unscathed. I really don't have a desire to live the remaining few decades of my life like that, and of course don't want it cut short. That said, there are quite a few folks out there who won't bend the knee and kiss the ring for the rest of their days either.

[ABNAK]

The problem is you can't change a Liberal's mind no matter how hard you try. I don't think a commie boot crushing their balls will break them out of the mental prison they're in.

You'd have to gain control of the schools in Liberal cities to create a new generation of patriots which will take 10-20 years and you'd have to start now. I don't think that can happen without control of the federal government. Trump was going to do it but that's now off the table.

Conservative enclaves perhaps?



So basically state/county autonomy while keeping the union intact? Is that a possibility?

How do you keep federal agents out?

An agreed-upon loose "confederation" of states? (I hesitate to use that word, but by definition that's what it would be)

Shared defense, a mostly shared economy. Regions where if you wanted to own a gun you can; if you don't you live in the other regions.

[mack7.62]

An agreed-upon loose "confederation" of states? (I hesitate to use that word, but by definition that's what it would be)

Shared defense, a mostly shared economy. Regions where if you wanted to own a gun you can; if you don't you live in the other regions.

Don't be afraid of the word, it is part of our history and it is a well proven fact that those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. What the last 4 years, the stolen election and the dismantling of the MAGA agenda which was so good for the common people has done has now made many of us hate them as much as they hate us. That does not bode well for coexisting and and if they continue down this road of extracting revenge on people who have done nothing wrong it seems that a backlash will be inevitable. I do now believe that many of those in power do want us dead but that may not work out as well for them as they seem to believe it will.

[Averageman]

There are already Governor's defying him and he hasn't been in a month.
He has gutted the economies of several States by edict. How are they supposed to react?

[ABNAK]

Don't be afraid of the word, it is part of our history Oh I'm not afraid of using it, but there are those who see "confed---" and stop reading and it is a well proven fact that those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. What the last 4 years, the stolen election and the dismantling of the MAGA agenda which was so good for the common people has done has now made many of us hate them as much as they hate us. That does not bode well for coexisting and and if they continue down this road of extracting revenge on people who have done nothing wrong it seems that a backlash will be inevitable. I do now believe that many of those in power do want us dead but that may not work out as well for them as they seem to believe it will.

True dat. 75+ million (and that is being conservative in the estimate) cannot be brushed aside, especially when your agenda involves forced mandatory participation, i.e. there ain't no "just being left alone".