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Thread: Listen and wear your mask or it's arrest and taser time....... even in Texas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PracticalRifleman View Post
    This begs the question, so we want beat cops to be the arbiter of which laws are constitutional and enforceable? Or should we be doing a better job of electing legislators and then holding them accountable?

    Where is the fine line to be drawn? Personally, I think possession crimes should be outlawed. If there is no victim, there should be no crime.


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    Your average cop isnt smart enough to have a JD in constitutional law and elected officials are easily corrupted. The first step would getting rid of police unions who let bad cops keep their job. Making cops subject to the same use of force laws as civilians would go a long way in either giving civilians back the rights to protect themselves and increasing the threshold of use of force against civilians. If a cop knew he would be held to same accountability as a civilian do you think he would think twice about burning down an unarmed kid in hallway? What message do you think it would send to LE if you shot an unarmed woman through the neck you get a murder 2 charge.

    Just like a government should fear the people they govern the police should have an equal fear of the people they police.
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    Keep it civil and not off the wall conspiracy or I'll terminate this thread.
    Love you Pop. F*ck Cancer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by officerX View Post
    A taser is NOT classified as lethal force.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TomMcC View Post
    Actually here in California (at least) it's considered "less" lethal, but still lethal.
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    Keep it civil and not off the wall conspiracy or I'll terminate this thread.
    Talk about lethal....

    Anyways...

    No one else is going to address the fact that the cop said clearly ‘raise your hand’... I would have Kevin Kline’d that for a bit.

    I’d say that cop needs some de-escalation training, but he never escalated, he came in hot. MASKS, Frick’n’ Officer Karen...
    The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.

    It's that simple.

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    I've wondered how I would deal with this, I imagine not very well.
    Wearing a mask is very difficult. I've had three different surgeries so that I can again ( barely) breath through my nose, putting a mask on negativity effects that surgery pretty heavily.
    People who have confronted me on it, usually understand that, but some want you to just stfu and put a mask on.
    That Cop wanted immediate unquestioning compliance. That man though armed represented no threat to that Officer.
    I understand people have bad days, but that's no excuse for his behaviors.
    As I sit here thinking about it,I certainly don't want him dealing with the public.

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    You ever see an episode of COPS? You can always tell which guy is taking the ride. He's the one with no shirt, almost always lit up a bit, and he's talking, talking some more...and then he talks himself right into jail.

    IDK, if the cop can't seem to deescalate, maybe we need to try to. Seems to me to be better than getting tuned up, or jail, or tased, or shot.

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    I assume someone called the police to report him. As soon as the words "You need to step outside and get one" left his mouth, I would have been outside, in my car and gone. It appears that is what the officer wanted and I don't have time for that BS.
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    So, since this is months old, what happened? Obviously, the perp is dead from COVID due to not respecting the mask, but what did he get charged with?
    The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.

    It's that simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    what did he get charged with?
    A ****ing taser...

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    Seeing things for what they are can be tough sometimes.

    Some truths to realize and adjust your reality to:

    The last vestige of justice is dead and the rule of law is dead.

    Cops are not your friend and you should spend as little time in their presence as possible.

    Masks don’t do shit. Properly fit test an N95 with a face shield and we can talk, but what’s being done now is beyond laughable and pure lunacy.

    There’s a reason people don’t say “this is a free country”, anymore.

    The Coof is real, however it’s been weaponized for control and that aspect of this virus is much more dangerous than anything else about it.

    I’m at a loss- those of you who say the cop was in the wrong- yet the guy should have just gone along with it and stfu, followed commands, just done what he was told, etc.

    What? Seriously?

    Where are we at when this is the mentality of supposed “free men”?

    It’s disturbing where we are at and it’s not getting better.

    It’s not only the right thing to do, but an obligation to fight tyranny in every form.

    The forces of tyranny expand inexorably to fill the space made available for their existence.

    Too much space is given to be filled.

    It’s truly disgusting to see what we’ve become in reaction to a bad cold. Sickening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomMcC View Post
    You ever see an episode of COPS? You can always tell which guy is taking the ride. He's the one with no shirt, almost always lit up a bit, and he's talking, talking some more...and then he talks himself right into jail.

    IDK, if the cop can't seem to deescalate, maybe we need to try to. Seems to me to be better than getting tuned up, or jail, or tased, or shot.
    A wise person once told me, you aren't going to win with a cop on the side of the road...even if you are actually right.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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