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Thread: NAVY SEAL WHO MURDERED GREEN BERET LOGAN MELGAR IS SENTENCED TO TEN YEARS

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    Actually it was bribe money for the local Africans in Mali and/or Niger IIRC. But yeah, same premise.
    That is what I heard. 10 years is a F'ing joke. His ass should be on a wall and shot. I have an especially low tolerance for those who should know better. Military elite should be given all the consideration in the world UNTIL they do something like this and then they should be given way more than the average joe.

    There isn't even the slimmest reasonable doubt that they knew exactly what they were doing and went to great effort to cover it up.
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    This is a sad thread.

    I agree up against the wall and shot. In fact their unit should be the firing squad. This way they remember. I know that is a bit Robert Heinlein, but it would stand out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiservontexas View Post
    This is a sad thread.

    I agree up against the wall and shot. In fact their unit should be the firing squad. This way they remember. I know that is a bit Robert Heinlein, but it would stand out.
    I'm perfectly fine with that.

    If these guys simply got caught "skimming cash" (either because somebody blew the whistle on them or because they realized they were going to get caught one way or another), due to their status as military "special forces" (and yes I know SOCCOM is the correct term and they are NSW and not green berets) if I were to sit in judgement of them I'd be very disappointed but incredibly lenient. They could literally get away with anything short of murder...but murder and ESPECIALLY the murder of another member of the SOCCOM community to try and cover up your other crimes is just going to earn you a wall and bullet.

    They are like bad cops who f over good cops because they won't overlook their criminal activity. Lowest of the low.
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    Not sure where I read it or heard it or learned it, but once a person get to 6’s level (and under their parent command) lines start to blur. Things become more acceptable that shouldn’t be. Perfect example is the ATF agents that went deep undercover with biker gangs. Before long one begins to question what reality is. Am I a Fed or a biker? Folks at this level can begin to wonder if they are operators or pirates.

    And add to that at this level there is a deep deep service rivalry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    ... I've read if you do military Federal time that is the place to go as sodomy rarely happens since they run a really tight ship.
    Good, it is an abomination that this garbage happens in any correctional facility. It’s just wrong.

    Ten years is a joke, Firing Squad is the answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiservontexas View Post
    This is a sad thread.

    I agree up against the wall and shot. In fact their unit should be the firing squad. This way they remember. I know that is a bit Robert Heinlein, but it would stand out.
    Actually, such thinking goes back to Roman Legions and their disciplinary practice of Decimation.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimation_(Roman_army)
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRAMBONE View Post
    Not sure where I read it or heard it or learned it, but once a person get to 6’s level (and under their parent command) lines start to blur. Things become more acceptable that shouldn’t be. Perfect example is the ATF agents that went deep undercover with biker gangs. Before long one begins to question what reality is. Am I a Fed or a biker? Folks at this level can begin to wonder if they are operators or pirates.

    And add to that at this level there is a deep deep service rivalry.
    I think most people get that. And that is why we give them the "leeway" I talked about. These are the guys who go hunt the worst people in the world and those who pose the greatest threats. They have to function with shit people in shit places while trying not to get any shit on themselves or bring shit home.

    Whatever they need, they should get.
    If they make mistakes, zip the wrong guy by accident or whatever, they should get a LOT of consideration.

    But these guys don't grow on trees. We don't have an unlimited supply of men who can qualify Ranger, Special Forces, NSW, PJ's or things like that let alone something like Delta. That any of them would kill another and take away what is very much a rare national resource is pretty much the only unforgivable thing they could do...and that they did it for money or to conceal a crime or any such petty motivation only compounds the disgrace they bring to themselves and on some level the people who trained them and the people who were responsible for them.

    If they happened to have an exceptional service record otherwise, I could maybe understand life without possibility of parole, but 10 years all but encourages this kind of shit. That guys who didn't kill anyone are doing twice that amount of time is BS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRAMBONE View Post
    What happened to the other SEAL and wasn’t there some MARSOC guys that were implicated?
    Read somewhere that they’re both serving a year and received bad conduct discharges. In my civilian LE mind, if they were sentenced to a year. They should have credit for time served already. https://www.dailypress.com/military/...mgm-story.html

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    @steyr Don’t get me wrong I in no way think their actions are justifiable and think the sentence is BS. NSW, 6 especially has had a lot issues the past few years. It needs to be fixed.

    Also at that level it can be a very toxic “eat our own” type of environment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stickman View Post
    " involuntary manslaughter"

    Really?
    First, the guy had a great defense attorney. He used the "I used the chokehold on (Melgar) like I did many times before (where no one died)" as the foundational claim to support involuntary manslaughter.

    Second, defense attorney was able to have potentially damning evidence suppressed, evidence which could have resulted in a harsher sentence.

    This still casts a pall over Dam Neck and had serious command ramifications.

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