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    From the start AR-15s were select fire rifles intended for combat. A brief history:

    - July 1960: Gen Curtis LeMay shoots the AR-15 at a 4th of July party and orders 80,000 for the USAF. That order doesn’t get approved.

    - Oct 1961: 10 AR-15s are tested by the Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA) in Viet Nam

    - Jan 1962 ARPA received the first of 1,000 AR-15s for U.S Advisors and VN soldiers. 965 of those are used in combat against the Viet Congress through out 1962.

    - May 1962: The first purchase of the AR-15 for the USAF, 8,500 rifles, is approved. It is part of an order that included 20,000 AR-15 for USN SEALs.

    - 1963 USAF receives an additional 18,000 AR-15s.

    - Oct 1963: first pre-production run of the XM16E1.

    - Dec 1963: BATF approves of the sale of the semi-auto AR-15 to civilians.

    - Jan 1964: Colt begins sale of the Model R6000 Colt AR-15 SP1 Sporter Rifle to civilians.

    The above is from The Black Rifle by Steven Ezell and AR-15 Vol I Second Edition by Larry Vickers & James Rupley

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcoodyar15 View Post
    Just what I was looking for. Keep it going.

    The ar15 was originally a military issue and not intended for the civilian market.

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    No. The AR15 was originally intended to make a profit. Initial pursuit of profit was through the avenue of contracts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PracticalRifleman View Post
    No. The AR15 was originally intended to make a profit. Initial pursuit of profit was through the avenue of contracts.


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    Lol. How droll and correct...gun companies like making guns but probably like making money more...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Korgs130 View Post
    From the start AR-15s were select fire rifles intended for combat. A brief history:

    - July 1960: Gen Curtis LeMay shoots the AR-15 at a 4th of July party and orders 80,000 for the USAF. That order doesn’t get approved.

    - Oct 1961: 10 AR-15s are tested by the Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA) in Viet Nam

    - Jan 1962 ARPA received the first of 1,000 AR-15s for U.S Advisors and VN soldiers. 965 of those are used in combat against the Viet Congress through out 1962.

    - May 1962: The first purchase of the AR-15 for the USAF, 8,500 rifles, is approved. It is part of an order that included 20,000 AR-15 for USN SEALs.

    - 1963 USAF receives an additional 18,000 AR-15s.

    - Oct 1963: first pre-production run of the XM16E1.

    - Dec 1963: BATF approves of the sale of the semi-auto AR-15 to civilians.

    - Jan 1964: Colt begins sale of the Model R6000 Colt AR-15 SP1 Sporter Rifle to civilians.

    The above is from The Black Rifle by Steven Ezell and AR-15 Vol I Second Edition by Larry Vickers & James Rupley
    You started a little late. And, the AR-15 very existence is due to a question from a General . . .

    - 1956(?): General Willard Wyman (Commanding General, CONARC) asks Armalite if a "scaled down" version of the AR-10 was possible after reading an Aberdeen report on Small Caliber High Velocity (SCHV) tests and Armalite's AR-11 "Stoppette". The answer is "We can try..."

    - May 1957: CONARC request 10 AR-15 (in .222 Remington) for US Army Infantry Board (USAIB) SCHV trials.

    - Nov 1957: The AR-15, now in .222 "Special" (later .223 Remington) is tested against the Winchester's "Light Weight Military Rifle" in .224 Winchester.

    - Mar 1958: The USAIB recommends several changes to the AR-15 that will result in the configuration of the first M16s, namely, redesigned trigger, charging handle, a flash hider, dust cover, 20 round magazine.

    - Dec 1958: Arctic test of the AR-15 by CONARC.

    - Feb 1959: the results of the SCHV test are published. (Around this time Remington introduces its "new" commercial cartridge, the .223 Remington).

    - Feb 1959: Armalite sells the design of the AR-15 and all associated IP to Colt's Manufacturing for the princely sum of $75,000 and 4.5% royalty on all future production.

    - 1959: Colt begins aggressive marketing of the AR-15 around the world.

    - Dec 1959: Colt's completes production of the first 300 AR-15s (Colt's Model 601). Most of these were exported for trials in other countries.
    Last edited by lysander; 02-20-21 at 21:54.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcoodyar15 View Post
    Just what I was looking for. Keep it going.

    The ar15 was originally a military issue and not intended for the civilian market.

    Learn something every day
    Here’s some pics of 3 (rather old) M16A2s borrowed from the CNARNG and USAR marked “Colt AR-15” to further confuse you: https://imgur.com/a/069aqj0

    IIRC, at least one of them started life as an A1.
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    Milspec AR15

    Quote Originally Posted by lysander View Post
    You started a little late. And, the AR-15 very existence is due to a question from a General . . .

    - 1956(?): General Willard Wyman (Commanding General, CONARC) asks Armalite if a "scaled down" version of the AR-10 was possible after reading an Aberdeen report on Small Caliber High Velocity (SCHV) tests and Armalite's AR-11 "Stoppette". The answer is "We can try..."

    - May 1957: CONARC request 10 AR-15 (in .222 Remington) for US Army Infantry Board (USAIB) SCHV trials.

    - Nov 1957: The AR-15, now in .222 "Special" (later .223 Remington) is tested against the Winchester's "Light Weight Military Rifle" in .224 Winchester.

    - Mar 1958: The USAIB recommends several changes to the AR-15 that will result in the configuration of the first M16s, namely, redesigned trigger, charging handle, a flash hider, dust cover, 20 round magazine.

    - Dec 1958: Arctic test of the AR-15 by CONARC.

    - Feb 1959: the results of the SCHV test are published. (Around this time Remington introduces its "new" commercial cartridge, the .223 Remington).

    - Feb 1959: Armalite sells the design of the AR-15 and all associated IP to Colt's Manufacturing for the princely sum of $75,000 and 4.5% royalty on all future production.

    - 1959: Colt begins aggressive marketing of the AR-15 around the world.

    - Dec 1959: Colt's completes production of the first 300 AR-15s (Colt's Model 601). Most of these were exported for trials in other countries.
    I did indeed. Excellent addition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1168 View Post
    Here’s some pics of 3 (rather old) M16A2s borrowed from the CNARNG and USAR marked “Colt AR-15” to further confuse you: https://imgur.com/a/069aqj0

    IIRC, at least one of them started life as an A1.
    The Colt's Model 602, as purchased by the USAF, and as described in USAF Technical Manual 50-12 (note the complete absence of "M16" markings):



    The early XM16/M16s all were marked "Colt AR-15". Colt's dropped the "AR-15" somewhere around the 900,000 to 1,000,000 serial number.
    Last edited by lysander; 02-21-21 at 10:02.

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    Never happened... from my own pic series, but no, I'm not the one who played with chalk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bamashooter View Post
    ahh, a picture of the guy who killed JFK.
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