I saw that vid on FB. Not my lane, but seemed the camera operator the worse of the bunch, vid was scary to watch as I kept wondering if it ended badly. Let out a big breath when it ended without any injuries.
I saw that vid on FB. Not my lane, but seemed the camera operator the worse of the bunch, vid was scary to watch as I kept wondering if it ended badly. Let out a big breath when it ended without any injuries.
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Some people in this thread have expertise in this. Some do not. This is a teachable topic, so if you don’t have personal experience (or trained to proficiency with someone that does) on this topic, pump your brakes and ask specific questions. This is why all the SMEs disappeared, and there are at least two active members here with experience both in CQB, and the units being used as examples, that are notably absent from this discussion, and I can promise that they know it exists.
Try not to take this as a personal insult, as that is not my intent. Also, note that I’m not going to just drag that unit’s name through the mud. There’s a reason for that.
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My heyday was early-90s through early-2000s, and in that time we saw so many iterations and evolution of CQB (jn a good way). As effed up as that video is--and it is--a large part of me is "there but for the grace of God go I...."
I am glad the video is there, may it serve as a catalyst for reform and better training. But that doesn't mean those guys--all of them--do not deserve to be hammered.
I have not heard of MVT, but it's because of places like that that evolution keeps the skill set alive and topical.
That shoot house almost became a smokehouse. Lessons to be learned here for sure.
I just want to know why none of the instructors/observers stopped it.
Or where the instructor/observers were...
Or why none of the participants noticed what they themselves were doing and fixed it along the way.
I mean, I don't know, all that combined that just seems... odd, to me. Like I'm missing some sort of further context.
Once upon a time I did a little CQB training on the civ side. There were some unsafe moments because myself and the other participants were hardly the cream of the crop, and perhaps the material was being advanced a little to quickly for our skill level. But nothing even approaching this level of 'yikes' happened, and would surely have resulted in an immediate "STOP!" from the instructor, and a swift exit from the range if wholesale carelessness had ensued or persisted. And we all KNEW when we f***ed up, often without having to be reamed for it.
Which is why this video just seems like somethings missing...
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Ok...if it's a teachable vid, then was it poor muzzle disciple? Back to my original question...was this the proper way to enter a room with possible hostile? Are there other things to learn from it?
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I have to ask was this actual 10th members or some they are training and taking along to learn ? or are they the reserve ones brushing up more learning etc...
was this a OK lets see what we need to learn vid or seasoned folks or brand new ?
trying to ask questions instead
had a buddy in intelligence and he was airborne at one time moved into intelligence but said lots of times folks bring along and train with folks who are not part of the unit ?
he joked lots of idiots along for the ride many times with groups that do not know what is going on or in training and go through the steps
my buddy does joke about "military intelligence" being the biggest oxymoron though
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