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    House and Senate reintroduce ‘Ending Qualified Immunity Act’

    So, this is back on the radar, not surprisingly. While source would have to assume some bias, seems a lengthy well written discussion:

    House and Senate reintroduce ‘Ending Qualified Immunity Act’ to remove qualified immunity from police

    WASHINGTON, DC – Democrats in both the House and Senate have reintroduced legislation that would end qualified immunity, placing police officers in the cross-hairs of continual personal lawsuits while trying to do their job.

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    Along with trying to repeal the PLCAA, this should be called "The end of policing act" or maybe the "The lawyer full employment act". The repeal of the PLCAA could be called "No gun for you act".

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    Removing qualified immunity from law enforcement could result in a shortage of police officers, as many potential recruits could view the high risk of personal damages from lawsuits too great to enter the field.
    And they are surprised when the quality of recruits drops. The only people willing to take a job as an LEO would be those with no other choice in the matter if something like this passes.
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    A lot of people have no idea what qualified immunity actually is. It doesn't cover criminal activity and it doesn't cover blatant violations of rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-grunt View Post
    A lot of people have no idea what qualified immunity actually is. It doesn't cover criminal activity and it doesn't cover blatant violations of rights.
    Exactly, and unlike what Sen. Warren says, if I commit excessive force, you CAN sue me.

    We are seeing good cops leave in droves, and good applicants turn to other fields. We are very quickly assembling the police forces we deserve, not what we need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-grunt View Post
    A lot of people have no idea what qualified immunity actually is. It doesn't cover criminal activity and it doesn't cover blatant violations of rights.
    Seems to have worked for Lon Horiuchi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LowSpeed_HighDrag View Post
    We are very quickly assembling the police forces we deserve, not what we need.
    One might think that's kinda the plan...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Seems to have worked for Lon Horiuchi.
    I think Idaho was ready to nail him to the wall, but the feds stymied them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Seems to have worked for Lon Horiuchi.
    I used to agree with that line of thinking, but the more I researched it and read court documents/filings/testimony, I'm not really sure. While it's unfortunate situation, I don't see how his actions were criminal or blatant violation of rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by TomMcC View Post
    I think Idaho was ready to nail him to the wall, but the feds stymied them.
    Not really, the evidence showed the denim curtain was closed at the time of shooting and he had no way of knowing she was behind the door. The family/Idaho's claim was that he must have mistakenly shot her thinking she was the "armed male". The family even went so far as to claim the curtain was up, but forensics showed the bullet hole passed through curtain and where it was in relation to window meant it was closed. That key piece of evidence corroborates that he was attempting the guy with a long gun as he went back inside but missed. Whether that would have been a good shoot or not is arguable in it's own right, but it backs up his claim regarding Vicki Weaver nonetheless.
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    IDK...sounds like Idaho wanted to skin him. Maybe History.com got it wrong.

    https://www.history.com/topics/1990s/ruby-ridge

    Judge ruled it qualified immunity.

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