Tom Clancy's: Without Remorse (2021)

[chuckman]

.....Hunt, Cardinal, PG, Clear, Sum of all Fears, Without Remorse etc were all good books that had readers believing in the possibility and without going crazy with the fictional items. I mean, except for a stealth Soviet sub, which, again was plausible enough for techno-thriller of the day.

I recall reading that the DOD/DIA's curiosity was piqued because they thought Clancy had access to classified information, when in reality he had gotten it from some war games at the time. I think one thing that made him successful in most of his stuff was the believability. I think the one I liked least was Debt of Honor because I thought it was least believable.

[BoringGuy45]

I recall reading that the DOD/DIA's curiosity was piqued because they thought Clancy had access to classified information, when in reality he had gotten it from some war games at the time. I think one thing that made him successful in most of his stuff was the believability. I think the one I liked least was Debt of Honor because I thought it was least believable.

My uncle said he gave up on Tom Clancy because of Debt of Honor, but for the most tragically ironic reason: The book as a whole was good, but he thought the idea of terrorists hijacking an airliner and using it to bomb a building was crazy. I remember him saying that only about a year before it was proven to be very real.

[Grand58742]

I recall reading that the DOD/DIA's curiosity was piqued because they thought Clancy had access to classified information, when in reality he had gotten it from some war games at the time. I think one thing that made him successful in most of his stuff was the believability. I think the one I liked least was Debt of Honor because I thought it was least believable.

The Japanese angle was certainly something I didn't find very plausible.

Of course, the ending certainly wasn't plausible until 9/11 as BG just pointed out.

[Five_Point_Five_Six]

As far as "black guys", Denzel Washington took an 80s movie called "Man on Fire" and blew the original out of the water. The original was about wealthy Italian families needing bodyguards against the threat of kidnapping. Scott Glenn played Creasy, Joe Pesci played his former partner and buddy and it was slow, dull and nobody saw it.

Denzel Washington and Christopher Walken came along and slam dunked it. Nobody cared that he played a white character in the original.

There are certainly occasions where moving away from the book will lead to a better movie, Man on Fire is one of them. The book is great if you read it with the frame of mind that it was written in the 70s. The 80s movie version was bad, so very bad, because they tried real hard to make it feel like the book.

Man on Fire 2004 worked so well because Mexico is a more believable locale for such things to happen, and because they got one of the best actors of our time to play Creasy.

This movie version of Without Remorse just seems to be using a familiar title, there's not much from the book in the trailers I've seen.

Michael B Jordan is a good actor, from his role as Wallace in The Wire to more recent films, but I don't think he's the right actor to pull off Clark. I'm not sure who I would have chosen to play Clark, but it wouldn't have been him.

[ViniVidivici]

My uncle said he gave up on Tom Clancy because of Debt of Honor, but for the most tragically ironic reason: The book as a whole was good, but he thought the idea of terrorists hijacking an airliner and using it to bomb a building was crazy. I remember him saying that only about a year before it was proven to be very real.

Yeah, I'll never forget the morning of Sep 11, '01 coming in to work, hearing what was going on, my VERY first thought was it was like something out of a Clancy book, specifically that right there, at the end of Debt of Honor.

Clancy's stuff's really been a part of my life, now that I think about it.....

[Hank6046]

Michael B Jordan is a good actor, from his role as Wallace in The Wire to more recent films, but I don't think he's the right actor to pull off Clark. I'm not sure who I would have chosen to play Clark, but it wouldn't have been him.

DAMN IT!! I love the Wire and totally didn't recognize him, I feel like an idiot, but good on you for pointing that out.

[SteyrAUG]

DAMN IT!! I love the Wire and totally didn't recognize him, I feel like an idiot, but good on you for pointing that out.

Don't feel bad. Got me too, love the wire, didn't notice.

[Grand58742]

Michael B Jordan is a good actor, from his role as Wallace in The Wire to more recent films, but I don't think he's the right actor to pull off Clark. I'm not sure who I would have chosen to play Clark, but it wouldn't have been him.

These days on an actual 1960s or early 70s Without Remorse?

Tom Hardy. Not sure about the huge build though.

Scott Eastwood.

Zac Efron.

Joe Dempsie.

Richard Madden.

Just off the top of my head.

[Five_Point_Five_Six]

DAMN IT!! I love the Wire and totally didn't recognize him, I feel like an idiot, but good on you for pointing that out.

Don't feel bad. Got me too, love the wire, didn't notice.

If you'd asked me during the first season in 2002 which of the actors playing the young street kids would go on to become a leading man in Hollywood, I would have never picked Wallace. I would have probably said the kid that played Bodie.

The Wire was pure television genius.

[Hank6046]

The Wire was pure television genius.

100%, I bring it up when people ask what my favorite movie is, I know it is a show, but the character development, the story, the acting, all of it is so damn good.