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    I just watched the movie.

    It was terrible.

    I don't care that they wanted to make Clark black, but the whole plot stunk and the mission to Russia was just plain stupid sending black operators to a place that has no or almost no blacks.

    But I started watching Underground Railroad also on Amazon and had to turn it off after about 20 minutes

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    Same with "Jupiter's Legacy" on netflix. 5 mins in and the super hero dad is telling the daughter not to use her powers on the "bad guy" because they are people too and we don't kill them, we make them face justice. Sorry not going to spew your cops are bad shit on me. Getting harder and harder to find things worth watching.

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    I just remember something: back when I was working on a really terrible movie (Color of Night), I was also syncing up screen tests for the newest Die Hard installment about a burned out NYPD detective, who had to deal with a mad bomber in the city.

    Funny thing was, that opening felt really weird when you watched the movie. Totally not John McClain. And there’s a reason for that. Rather than write a totally organic Die Hard 3 script (not that they didn’t try, trust me), the producers bought a fairly decent script called Simon Says and wrenched it into a Die Hard movie.

    I’d bet a donut that the same thing happened here. They had the rights to Without Remorse and a star attached, but no workable script, so they grabbed one with a workable plot (it might have actually been an ok script), and they strapped just enough of Clark’s storyline onto it to make it passable. The thing reeked of a dozen other movies you’ve seen, but it was hard to tell because there was always some bizzaro-world version of Tom Clancey sitting on it.

    Also, Netflix are total idiots with money, so they probably overspent on development of the original script, then too much for the other script they bastardized.


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    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    I just watched the movie.

    It was terrible.

    I don't care that they wanted to make Clark black, but the whole plot stunk and the mission to Russia was just plain stupid sending black operators to a place that has no or almost no blacks.
    Saw it today. I knew I was in trouble in the beginning when he took the shot from underwater and as he came out of the water, the ejection port cover was still closed.

    Couldn't care less that they made Clarke a black guy, the black girl SEAL commander was a bit much. Big problem is everything sucked, updated story line was weak, plausible military scenarios were completely out the window (which is the draw for Clancy shit in the first place) and so much "don't care" I can't begin to list it all.
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    Can we get the rights to Little Women, Jane Error, or other beloved collectivist literature and screw that the F up? Make them into pro-life subservient twits? They keep on messing with our stuff.

    Remake Thelma and Louise where they drive the speed limit, make sandwiches, and do dishes. Makes about as much sense.
    The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.

    It's that simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbjh View Post
    I just remember something: back when I was working on a really terrible movie (Color of Night), I was also syncing up screen tests for the newest Die Hard installment about a burned out NYPD detective, who had to deal with a mad bomber in the city.

    Funny thing was, that opening felt really weird when you watched the movie. Totally not John McClain. And there’s a reason for that. Rather than write a totally organic Die Hard 3 script (not that they didn’t try, trust me), the producers bought a fairly decent script called Simon Says and wrenched it into a Die Hard movie.

    I’d bet a donut that the same thing happened here. They had the rights to Without Remorse and a star attached, but no workable script, so they grabbed one with a workable plot (it might have actually been an ok script), and they strapped just enough of Clark’s storyline onto it to make it passable. The thing reeked of a dozen other movies you’ve seen, but it was hard to tell because there was always some bizzaro-world version of Tom Clancey sitting on it.

    Also, Netflix are total idiots with money, so they probably overspent on development of the original script, then too much for the other script they bastardized.


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    I am intrigued by your background and would love to hear more! Seriously, this sounds cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbjh View Post
    I just remember something: back when I was working on a really terrible movie (Color of Night), I was also syncing up screen tests for the newest Die Hard installment about a burned out NYPD detective, who had to deal with a mad bomber in the city.

    Funny thing was, that opening felt really weird when you watched the movie. Totally not John McClain. And there’s a reason for that. Rather than write a totally organic Die Hard 3 script (not that they didn’t try, trust me), the producers bought a fairly decent script called Simon Says and wrenched it into a Die Hard movie.

    I’d bet a donut that the same thing happened here. They had the rights to Without Remorse and a star attached, but no workable script, so they grabbed one with a workable plot (it might have actually been an ok script), and they strapped just enough of Clark’s storyline onto it to make it passable. The thing reeked of a dozen other movies you’ve seen, but it was hard to tell because there was always some bizzaro-world version of Tom Clancey sitting on it.

    Also, Netflix are total idiots with money, so they probably overspent on development of the original script, then too much for the other script they bastardized.


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    I am intrigued by your background and would love to hear more! Seriously, this sounds cool.

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    After hearing so many glowing reviews...

    I s'pose I'll have to pass.

    I have no desire to watch their production of "Wheel of Time" either, though I enjoyed the books.

    I saw something where Amazon said they are "forced" to deviate when they adapt popular books to film because readers have poor taste.
    Go Ukraine! Piss on the Russian dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowSpeed_HighDrag View Post
    I am intrigued by your background and would love to hear more! Seriously, this sounds cool.
    Film and television editor, same as my dad (my great grandfather was a plaster at Disney). Been doing it professionally for 35 years now, grew up on set and in the cutting room. It’s an odd business, but I’ve made a load of great friends and got to travel quite a bit too. It can be hard on relationships though. To be honest, I’m probably not qualified to work with regular people, so my other career paths would have been a bus driver or repoing cars (I actually did both very briefly, and neither was fun).

    For movies like Die Hard With A Vengeance (really all movies), you have a limited window to get it done because of the actor’s and director’s schedules, filming permits, and even the weather. So when they didn’t have a script anyone would approve putting their money into, the producers grabbed a decent script they had already optioned, tossed a script doctor at it for a few weeks and a ton of money, and started shooting.

    One of the craziest things about working at that company was going to grab a fax and seeing the receipts from one of the executive producer’s casinos in Hungary. Not Vegas money, but I’d totally like that stream going into my offshore accounts!


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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    Can we get the rights to Little Women, Jane Error, or other beloved collectivist literature and screw that the F up? Make them into pro-life subservient twits? They keep on messing with our stuff.

    Remake Thelma and Louise where they drive the speed limit, make sandwiches, and do dishes. Makes about as much sense.
    Stepford Wives could be about how to maintain a good marriage. I'm on board with this.

    Handmaid Tale could be about the fun, sexual adventures of a handmaid.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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