Tom Clancy's: Without Remorse (2021)

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

On the race thing, when Jonsey the sonarman was cast as black that ired some people. The actor they are using is a good one for the origin story. The 'Clark' in the Jack Ryan Prime reboot was more of the correct age and circumstance to the Ryan character. If they merge the stories now, Clark and Ryan are the same age? Wait till Ding finds out he is a girl.

Clancy wrote good stuff, stick with it. I don't know why they pay for the IP and then throw it out?

[Aries144]

Clancy wrote good stuff, stick with it. I don't know why they pay for the IP and then throw it out?

Subversion. Everything is about pushing their agenda. Nothing is sacred. They are extremely cutthroat people, fanatically obsessed with pushing their worldview. They are communists. Agents of chaos.

[Coal Dragger]

Not going to bother watching that crap.

[jbjh]

I doubt anybody was getting their woke on about a Tom Clancy property.

As someone who works in the industry, my guess is someone (a producer working with a talent agency on a packaging deal) pitched this to be “bold” and to hire one of the hottest actors in Hollywood after his work on Fahrenheit 451 and Creed. And maybe to line him up for another couple of flicks.

This isn’t Marxism, it’s just a business bet about entertainment.


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[SteyrAUG]

All they need is a Germanic villain with a postage stamp sized moustache, maybe a beer hall.
Who knows where this could go?

Already did it with "Sum of All Fears" because it is neo nazis who will want to nuke us.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

At least the screen play and director don't seem to be the same people at S2 of Jack Ryan.

I'm just going to repeat what a complete POC the S2 was of Jack Ryan. Killed off 'Clark', got rid of Cathy Ryan AND had horrible gun, tech and tactics- the second of which- tech- has to have Tom Clancy wanting to drag the producers behind the Rueben James as a nixie to decoy Soviet torpedoes...

[Vandal]

What about Greer..... Karen Greer.....

I saw that, Adm. Greer needs to be played by James Earl Jones only, and not turned into a muslim like in the Jack Ryan show.

Without Remorse is a period piece as previously mentioned and plays a major role in understanding John Clark and where he came from. I don't see how they can get it right by bringing it into the current age, add in the forced woke-ness and I'm out. I think I'd rather reread the book. I enjoy Clancy's books, even the Jack Ryan Jr series that has been kept alive by the other writers.

[Sam]

Without Remorse is a period piece as previously mentioned and plays a major role in understanding John Clark and where he came from. I don't see how they can get it right by bringing it into the current age, ....

THIS !

[Diamondback]

I saw that, Adm. Greer needs to be played by James Earl Jones only, and not turned into a muslim like in the Jack Ryan show.

Without Remorse is a period piece as previously mentioned and plays a major role in understanding John Clark and where he came from. I don't see how they can get it right by bringing it into the current age, add in the forced woke-ness and I'm out. I think I'd rather reread the book. I enjoy Clancy's books, even the Jack Ryan Jr series that has been kept alive by the other writers.

So much THIS, even though I've skipped the Jack Jr. line.

s for Hollywood whizzing all over Clancy IP, this is what happens when neo-Orwellians want a perpetual "Year Zero" from 1984 and summarily discard such important things as historical context... Jack Jr. novels are the place for more "today" stuff, even though they're quite a bit darker than "The First Generation. Not as bad as Dale Brown's regular "how many beloved characters can I kill off this time without provoking a mass Reader Revolt" binges, but...

[BoringGuy45]

I saw that, Adm. Greer needs to be played by James Earl Jones only, and not turned into a muslim like in the Jack Ryan show.

Without Remorse is a period piece as previously mentioned and plays a major role in understanding John Clark and where he came from. I don't see how they can get it right by bringing it into the current age, add in the forced woke-ness and I'm out. I think I'd rather reread the book. I enjoy Clancy's books, even the Jack Ryan Jr series that has been kept alive by the other writers.

I agree that the only Clancy movies that are worth watching are Red October, Patriot Games, and Clear and Present Danger. The Jack Ryan series is actually really good in my opinion. However, it is marred by the usual wokeness. Pretty much any movie or show that deals with Islamic extremism is going to have a Muslim main character, and an emphasis that the bad guy is driven by a legitimate gripe with the U.S. for bombing his village and not because he follows a harsh interpretation of Islam that demands the conquest of the world and the extermination of infidels.