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Thread: What did I get? Ordered a Colt 6933, got the gun from HEAT

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    You can email and ask Paul Szymaszek at Colt archives, he’s been very helpful for many of my guns. Paul at coltarchives dot com

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    What are the forge code markings on the upper? What are the markings on the barrel? What is the date stamp on the barrel behind the handgaurd cap?

    ETA: I looked at your pictures on imgur. The front sight base pin (front pin) looks like it has been pushed out. No washer behind the flash hider. As of now, I am calling this some put together rifle.

    The 733 upper is defiantly not worth significant money, in that condition, if the FSB pins have been messed with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottryan View Post
    What are the forge code markings on the upper? What are the markings on the barrel? What is the date stamp on the barrel behind the handgaurd cap?

    ETA: I looked at your pictures on imgur. The front sight base pin (front pin) looks like it has been pushed out. No washer behind the flash hider. As of now, I am calling this some put together rifle.

    The 733 upper is definitely not worth significant money, in that condition, if the FSB pins have been messed with.
    Forge codes is C A on the upper.

    Flash hider is loose. The FSB isn't F marked so I took that as a good sign. Why do you say the front pin looks pushed out?

    It was purchased from Only The Best Firearms as a new 6933, they are a reputable dealer that moves volume so it's strange all around. I'm going to email colt and ask what they know, seems like they don't answer the phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freeride1 View Post
    Forge codes is C A on the upper.

    Flash hider is loose. The FSB isn't F marked so I took that as a good sign. Why do you say the front pin looks pushed out?

    It was purchased from Only The Best Firearms as a new 6933, they are a reputable dealer that moves volume so it's strange all around. I'm going to email colt and ask what they know, seems like they don't answer the phone.
    The pins have marks in the middle, are flush with the FSB instead of protruding slightly, and the FSB has a mark on the right side where the pins were pushed out.

    ETA: Also the gas tube roll pin looks like it's a bit mangled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OLIAR15 View Post
    You can email and ask Paul Szymaszek at Colt archives, he’s been very helpful for many of my guns. Paul at coltarchives dot com
    Good idea, I've emailed him.

    ETA: Talked to Paul, he was able to confirm that it initially shipped in 2005 but wasn’t able to confirm anything else. I also called Colt CS, also confirmed 2005 and confirmed that the carry handle was an option for the LE6933 in 2005 but weren't able to tell me the configuration this was in.
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    6933 is the Colt Commando. Looks like you have an early one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freeride1 View Post
    Good idea, I've emailed him.
    I also called Colt CS, also confirmed 2005 and confirmed that the carry handle was an option for the LE6933 in 2005 but weren't able to tell me the configuration this was in.


    What exactly do you mean by the "carry handle was an option"

    How exactly did you ask that question?

    The carry handle was an option can mean more than one configuration:

    1. Flattop upper that includes a detachable carry handle, instead of a Matech.
    2. Fixed carry handle upper
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    Quote Originally Posted by georgeib View Post
    The pins have marks in the middle, are flush with the FSB instead of protruding slightly, and the FSB has a mark on the right side where the pins were pushed out.

    ETA: Also the gas tube roll pin looks like it's a bit mangled.

    Yeap.

    I vote that gun was a regular 6933 with a 733 upper added after the fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottryan View Post
    What exactly do you mean by the "carry handle was an option"

    How exactly did you ask that question?

    The carry handle was an option can mean more than one configuration:

    1. Flattop upper that includes a detachable carry handle, instead of a Matech.
    2. Fixed carry handle upper
    I'm not a complete retard, fixed carry handle was an option.

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    Are there extended feed ramps in the upper receiver - either M4 style or the earlier “extended carbine” ramps? I have a 733 upper from 1996 that has the M4 ramps and a “4” stamped on the front of the upper receiver, which seems to be a mark used to denote A2/C7 style uppers with M4 ramps.
    If you have ramps, do they appear to have been cut pre- or post-anodizing? Ramps cut post-anodizing don’t *necessarily* mean it isn’t factory original, as a lot of 6520 “government carbines”, including mine, apparently had their ramps added post-anodizing, but it’s just another thing to check.

    I’d also check the barrel date and see if that jives with the date Colt gave you for the lower.

    If it is all original it could be some kind of special run for a specific agency contract. I mean Colt built a bunch of dissipators for the CHP at one point, and they would apparently do other special runs of somewhat unusual configurations here and there.

    Determining who the original intended recipient was could be interesting. If it’s in its original factory condition and new old stock, who knows it could even have been a gun intended for some foreign LE contract that fell through line those SDN Mexico 6920s that were floating on gunbroker around a few years back. Buying fixed carry-handle Commandos in 2005 seems like the sort of thing some Latin American country would do.

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