JOINT AGENCY BALLISTICS TEST FOR DEFENSIVE HANDGUN AMMUNITION

[vicious_cb]

I'm going to postulate that a block of silky tofu is probably ballistically identical to the average Antifa member.

Much more careful bullet selection is advised for defending yourself against Antifa. Early upset and expansion is a must since the lack of muscle mass found on Antifa members can lead to a failure to expand.

[ABNAK]

What!? No fruits and vegetables like that guy on youtube? This "test" is too heavily biased towards the carnivore diet. We need to see how bullets perform against a balanced diet.



Thats probably the only use for these "propeller" bullets is in pocket guns when your other choices are FMJ or poorly expanding XTP bullets. Personally I'd still go for the XTP bullet. You would be stupid to use a "propeller" bullet in a proper service caliber. Hell, the petals on an expanded HP probably cause more propeller like temporary stretch cavity than the actual "propeller" bullet.

I think a well-marbled (i.e. fatty) chuck roast would be a closer match to most of American society!

[okie]

Much more careful bullet selection is advised for defending yourself against Antifa. Early upset and expansion is a must since the lack of muscle mass found on Antifa members can lead to a failure to expand.

Stocking up on M855 was a bad decision.

[Dr Dues]

This alleged "study" smells of an info-mercial for Underwood ammunition.

[ABNAK]

This alleged "study" smells of an info-mercial for Underwood ammunition.

Strasbourg Part Deux?

[T2C]

Interesting reading. Maybe carrying a 1911 when wearing cold weather clothing is the norm is not outdated after all.

[Eda]

Interesting reading. Maybe carrying a 1911 when wearing cold weather clothing is the norm is not outdated after all.

Oh no it most certainly is outdated. Theres no reason to switch to 45 because it may not expand. People who perpetuate this myth just know nothing about modern ballistics and bullet design

[C-grunt]

I remember discussing this on a professional oriented Facebook page when it first came out. After some digging it was found to be basically an advertisement from some of the ammo companies thinly disguised as an official LE test.

[Ed L.]

This alleged "study" smells of an info-mercial for Underwood ammunition.

Strasbourg Part Deux?

That was my impression upon reading it. Strasbourg Part Deux by people who are closet Marshall-Sanow believers.

[C-grunt]

From the last section of the paper:

People involved in this 2016-17 Joint Agency Ballistics Test For Defensive
Handgun Ammunition came from the Department of Defense, Department of
Justice, Marshalls, two Texas State departments, 4 police and Sherriff departments,
2 security firms, 3 local gun stores and 2 training schools. We had 2 companies that
sponsored some of the tests by providing supplies and food. One local grocery store
chain gave great discount on brisket used in Phase 4/5. The tests were accomplished
at 4 outdoor ranges starting in March of 2016 and finishing in October of 2017.
Ammunition was provided by multiple sources ranging from the manufacturers to
gun stores and finally most provided by the agencies involved. No ammunition
manufacturers were allowed to sponsor or attend any test. They were only allowed
to provide ammunition and nothing else.

Note that the paper says the people involved were FROM those agencies and not that the agencies were actually involved in the testing. It also says the thing was compiled by Viper Weapons Training LLC.