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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    I'm so confused.

    I read huge letters on the side of the ship that says, "EVERGREEN". But in smaller letters on the front of the ship it says, "EVER GIVEN". I've heard and read the ship being called both. What's the deal?

    Here's an Evergreen vessel / Ever Liberal that lost some containers...I would love to see one of the mega in person as 20k containers is pretty freak'n impressive. I honestly did not think it would move w/out unloading.


    https://taiwanenglishnews.com/evergr...ainers-at-sea/
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    EVER GIVEN is officially confiscated: Suez Canal chairman

    https://www.egypttoday.com/Article/1...Canal-chairman
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artos View Post
    EVER GIVEN is officially confiscated: Suez Canal chairman

    https://www.egypttoday.com/Article/1...Canal-chairman
    I wonder what the Ever Given and all of it's cargo is worth. Hell of a confiscation. Read that it can carry 20,000 containers.
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    Was it not the canal pilot in command of the vessel at the time of the incident?

    If so it's awfully hard to blame Evergreen.
    Go Ukraine! Piss on the Russian dead.

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    Exactly, Trying to follow this story has been a challenge...just hoping I can find a legit follow up to the black box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by utahjeepr View Post
    Was it not the canal pilot in command of the vessel at the time of the incident?

    If so it's awfully hard to blame Evergreen.
    The pilot is NEVER "in command" of the vessel. The master (Captain) is always the one in control, he's in charge and has the command of the vessel. And don't forget, he;s in charge of the crew as well...the crew includes the helmsman.

    Pilot's are hired (compulsory) for their local knowledge and expertise in the confined waterway. Pilot's speak the local language, they know the narrows, the shallows, the prevailing winds and currents. Imagine if a Chinese ship were meeting a Russian ship in a narrow water way and trying to communicate. Instead there is a local pilot on each vessel and they conduct all the radio comms. Pilots are basically valet for vessels. They know what to say, where to go and where not to go. They provide this knowledge throughout the route for which they are hired. You'd be surprised at how many accidents pilots prevent. It's unfathomable.
    But they are never in control or in command or in charge.

    This is not to say they have no responsibility. But the master and his hiring company or seafarers union own the brunt of the responsibility of most accidents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matemike View Post
    The pilot is NEVER "in command" of the vessel. The master (Captain) is always the one in control, he's in charge and has the command of the vessel. And don't forget, he;s in charge of the crew as well...the crew includes the helmsman.

    Pilot's are hired (compulsory) for their local knowledge and expertise in the confined waterway. Pilot's speak the local language, they know the narrows, the shallows, the prevailing winds and currents. Imagine if a Chinese ship were meeting a Russian ship in a narrow water way and trying to communicate. Instead there is a local pilot on each vessel and they conduct all the radio comms. Pilots are basically valet for vessels. They know what to say, where to go and where not to go. They provide this knowledge throughout the route for which they are hired. You'd be surprised at how many accidents pilots prevent. It's unfathomable.
    But they are never in control or in command or in charge.

    This is not to say they have no responsibility. But the master and his hiring company or seafarers union own the brunt of the responsibility of most accidents.
    Gotcha, he's the tour guide. Didn't know how it worked other than you had to have the pilot aboard, I thought he essentially assumed command for the passage. Thanks.
    Go Ukraine! Piss on the Russian dead.

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