Addressed already. That comment tells me you either didn't read what I wrote or didn't understand it.
I brought it up because you made a demonstrably false statement "...we don’t vaccinate for viruses which we’ve already contracted."
You then changed the topic/moved goal posts about the topic of the flu. You bring up a different issue there about efficacy, etc.
No, you brought up chicken pox, and again, you have moved the goal posts. Kids are now given vaccine for that too and the emergence of Shingles in some in more nuanced then you're making it out to be actually, and another topic. We now vaccinate for chicken pox vs go the natural immunity route (your initial point...) because as with all other pathogenic viruses, it's viewed as far less risk to acquire immunity via vaccine than via natural immunity and no one claims vaccines are risk free. As always, net risk/benefit is what is looked at in population studies.
Or, you could end up like my friend, who was diagnosed with covid at one point, didn't get vaccinated, assuming his natural immunity would suffice, and found out it did not:
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=...=a.25375426606
If you wanna play the subjective n = 1 thing of "I know someone who..." thing, I now know a handful of people who had diagnosed covid when it arrived, who got very ill recently, and their natural immunity did not prevent it. Again, data does strongly suggests the vaccines are protective - to varying degrees - against all variants to date, due to reasons explained before, which you ether didn't understand or didn't read, so I will not explain it yet again.
And I put out articles, started a thread, and pushed hard for others routes of treatment over vaccines from day one, and will repeat, we will not vaccinate our way out of this, and don't agree with any of what wrote above as it's not accurate. To finish, as this will be my last response to this one:
(1) Huge mistakes made and missed opportunity made by the powers that be, mostly due to pissing match with the orange guy, some of it built into the system, and other variables, some of which I and others have been exposing for 30+ years now, such as banning tryptophan due to a single bad batch to protect SSRI profits, and on it goes.
(2) This thread, per warnings of the mods multiple times, is to discuss vaccine status and experiences, etc vs debate value of vaccines per se, and there's an ongoing thread (I have removed myself from for reasons explained in the thread...) that appears the place to debate that topic:
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...-Delta-Variant
Conclusions: The vaccines are beneficial, and those who can get them should, we will not vaccinate our way out of covid, it's medical negligence, bordering on criminal negligence, that other modalities and approaches, have been actively suppressed and that's bad science and bad medicine. It's also the norm in the biggest killers we have, and welcome to my world, a world I think many fully exposed to for the first time with this covid event. It's not pretty...
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