Yup, people are getting dumber

[Todd.K]

IQ tests are designed to rely more upon rote memorization whereas schools and even electronic devices used by students rely on the ability to find things...

https://bigthink.com/brandon-weber/e...-now-reversing

No, IQ tests are not like being on Jeopardy or taking an open book test.

IQ tests are designed to measure problem solving abilities.

[THCDDM4]

No, IQ tests are not like being on Jeopardy or taking an open book test.

IQ tests are designed to measure problem solving abilities.

Yep. They are the best metric we have for gauging overall comprehensive cognitive ability.

People hate IQ tests because of the findings, well come up with something better! Hint- they've been trying and they haven't thus far so IQ test is the best metric right now that we have.

That doesn't mean someone with an IQ of 90 cannot survive and grow their own food and understand things with relative complexity- it just means their cognitive ability and problem solving skills are limited and not on the same level as others.

That also doesn't mean that someone with an IQ of 160 will automatically be a success in life either. They may struggle to even communicate with others on a daily basis and fit in socially to even be a part of society.

Humans are capable of a lot, an IQ is not the deciding factor of how well they do in life or even who they are.

It does give a great metric to use for many purposes.

[utahjeepr]

I'm kinda suspicious of IQ tests. Oddly enough, because I have taken a few (employer requested- WTF?) and scored VERY high. Can't recall numbers, but like 99th percentile high. Thing is I know I ain't a moron, but I ain't in the top 10% either let alone the top 1%. So folks need to take their individual results with a TRAINLOAD of salt.

[THCDDM4]

I'm kinda suspicious of IQ tests. Oddly enough, because I have taken a few (employer requested- WTF?) and scored VERY high. Can't recall numbers, but like 99th percentile high. Thing is I know I ain't a moron, but I ain't in the top 10% either let alone the top 1%. So folks need to take their individual results with a TRAINLOAD of salt.

Most employer "IQ" tests are not actual standardized IQ tests, but mini cognitive tests. That being said, you could be in the top 1%, but not be a "genius" so to speak. Just means you scored higher than 99% of the population.

Genius level intellect is about .25% of the population- that's anyone who scores 140 or higher on their IQ test, not a percentile test.

You'd have to take a real IQ test to understand your score, that is NOT based on a percentile.

[chuckman]

Oh, Jesus lawdy, IQ tests.....

There have been so many issues with 'old' IQ tests regarding income, racial, and ethnic bias. Not on purpose, but those tests were trialed with mostly middle class white kids and adults. I think they have redesigned to take those biases out so it's more "normal" across multiple populations. I do not think I am a genius, but apparently the MAT thinks otherwise. If you score above a certain grade on the MAT, you get an invite to join MENSA. This was...2010. I threw away the invite. I thought the MAT was pretty easy; no math. I suck donkey balls at math.

Many high-performing employers (and SOCOM units) are discarding the notion for IQ and instead looking at EQ, or emotional intelligence. A 1995 paper by Daniel Goleman found that people with the highest levels of intelligence outperform those with average IQs 20% of the time, while people with average IQs outperform those with high IQs 70% of the time.

Results of IQ tests do need to be taken in context, and are generally meaningless.

[thepatriot2705]

I have a side hustle at an auto parts store. Young girl just called up. “My brake light came up, what does that mean?”
Me: you need brake fluid ASAP, stop as a gas station and get some. Girl: I don’t know where to put it. Me: you can google it. Girl: I don’t wanna **** up my car. Me: there’s a cap that says brake fluid.

People have zero interest in learning how to do anything despite having a smart phone connected to the internet

[Straight Shooter]

I raise hell about the under 35 bunch, because..well its been covered here enough.
But when I see an old fat fart..standing in an open doorway of a supermarket..BACK TURNED....POKIN ON A FVCKIN CELLPHONE WHILST A FVCKIN MUSLIM TRIES TO KILL EVERY WHITE PERSON HE CAN SEE.. while ANOTHER MORON videos the dead an injured instead of trying to help or render some form of aid....I think we are ALL screwed ducks.

[SteyrAUG]

Sad for sure. But I think if a world wide study were to take place we would find that it is not isolated to Norway.

Once again California and DC would lead the world.

[SteyrAUG]

So here is my best result from what is considered a legit IQ test.



Typically I score about 10 points lower. That said, most IQ tests are nothing more than elaborate pattern recognition so once you realize that, your IQ magically goes up 20 points. I have seen people who score in the 130-140 range who I wouldn't trust to walk my dog and I've seen people in the 90-110 range who seem a lot smarter than me.

It really is just a single metric of specialized intelligence. It doesn't mean you are a genius, talented or successful. It also seems to be something where some people just have a easy command of, like speaking multiple languages fluently when other very intelligent people struggle to just get by with a Berlitz book. I know a few people who barely got out of high school but can speak six languages fluently and effortlessly. Are they smarter than me? In one respect certainly, in others not so much.

[WillBrink]

So here is my best result from what is considered a legit IQ test.



Typically I score about 10 points lower. That said, most IQ tests are nothing more than elaborate pattern recognition so once you realize that, your IQ magically goes up 20 points. I have seen people who score in the 130-140 range who I wouldn't trust to walk my dog and I've seen people in the 90-110 range who seem a lot smarter than me.

It really is just a single metric of specialized intelligence. It doesn't mean you are a genius, talented or successful. It also seems to be something where some people just have a easy command of, like speaking multiple languages fluently when other very intelligent people struggle to just get by with a Berlitz book. I know a few people who barely got out of high school but can speak six languages fluently and effortlessly. Are they smarter than me? In one respect certainly, in others not so much.

I knew someone with an IQ of 186. He lived in his parents basement and ended up blowing off a finger with a flint lock pistol he ordered as a kit in the mail. Supposedly, Richard Feynman claimed to have an IQ of 125. I don't think the IQ test is worthless per se, and there is no doubt trends to how it applies to stats vs individuals have some value, but I personally put little stock in it. Most I have known with very high IQ's were savant types, and could memorize say bio chem charts all day, but could not tie their shoes and such.