So I successfully infiltrated

[AnCapMan]

So I successfully infiltrated got thru vetting and prospect and became 1st degree and left my local PB chapter.

Vetting started in January, and I was put into prospect in February and got my 1st degree in March.

Here is my take. These guys are not what the media portrays. And they aren’t what we portray either.

1st - most of the men involved are decent guys. They are definitely not the brightest bunch. A few of the guys were smart. The rest were conspiracy theorists, Covid deniers (denying it existed), most had none or a vague understanding of private property theory and rights most were anti vaccine, most believe that HIV despite emerging first in 1920, is man made....

They are proudly ignorant of their ignorance. When you attempt to show evidence or historical facts their comeback will be anger or rage. Most of them think they are smart, while simultaneously believing smart people are leftists and liars.

I would say go to 30 dive bars. Grab the loud mouth jerk regular who always ruins everyone’s time. Put those 30 together with maybe 10 normal conservatives. And you have the proud boys chapter.

I really liked a few of the guys but part of leaving means they ghost you.

Overall I would say if you are a degenerate alcoholic, think fisticuffs is a valid way to determine who is right in a debate, are anti science, think you’re a tough guy.... this may be the group for you.

Conservative Men’s club rating 1/5
Militia 0/5 (they are not a militia)
Place for intelligent debate 1/5
Group where driving completely sloshed is condoned 5/5
Drink until you puke club 5/5
Sharing pornographic trans pics 5/5 (not joking)

It’s a pretty awful place for men of intelligence.

If you have any questions feel free to ask and I will give honest answers. I originally had paired up with a national columnist but in the end the story is just not there. It’s a group of drunk blue collar men who would have been Union Dems back until Reagan.

[TomMcC]

Sounds like my kind of guys 35-40 years ago, except the trannie part, that's kinda' weird. The only thing I've really heard about them until your post is that they really liked to drink.

[AnCapMan]

Understatement. Lol. Like I said good guys. I liked most of them. Just didn’t like the proud ignorance.

[TomMcC]

So why did you decide to infiltrate them and are you still hanging with them?

[AnCapMan]

So why did you decide to infiltrate them and are you still hanging with them?

At first I was very interested in joining them as I am quite pro western civ. I was severely disappointed however that they weren’t principled, weren’t accepting of science, or any logical or reason based debate.

So I thought I could use a friend to at least get them a counter in the press... a way to give them true but positive press. Unfortunately the way they are, even though they aren’t what the media portrays, they just ended up being not exactly loveable no matter how I tried to spin it.

No when you leave you’re gone. The individual friends you made within the group are gone as well.

[Jsp10477]

He may look dumb but that’s just a disguise. He’s an undercover agent for the fbi and he’s been sent down here to infiltrate the ku klux klan.. lol

[AnCapMan]

He may look dumb but that’s just a disguise. He’s an undercover agent for the fbi and he’s been sent down here to infiltrate the ku klux klan.. lol

Nah I am just a normal dude. Been a member here almost 9 years. Not FBI etc. really was hoping for valid and reasoned discussion among like minded people. It just isn’t available. At least not in the chapter I was in

[jsbhike]

Only one way to get positive press.

[WillBrink]

So I successfully infiltrated got thru vetting and prospect and became 1st degree and left my local PB chapter.

Vetting started in January, and I was put into prospect in February and got my 1st degree in March.

Here is my take. These guys are not what the media portrays. And they aren’t what we portray either.

1st - most of the men involved are decent guys. They are definitely not the brightest bunch. A few of the guys were smart. The rest were conspiracy theorists, Covid deniers (denying it existed), most had none or a vague understanding of private property theory and rights most were anti vaccine, most believe that HIV despite emerging first in 1920, is man made....

They are proudly ignorant of their ignorance. When you attempt to show evidence or historical facts their comeback will be anger or rage. Most of them think they are smart, while simultaneously believing smart people are leftists and liars.

I would say go to 30 dive bars. Grab the loud mouth jerk regular who always ruins everyone’s time. Put those 30 together with maybe 10 normal conservatives. And you have the proud boys chapter.

I really liked a few of the guys but part of leaving means they ghost you.

Overall I would say if you are a degenerate alcoholic, think fisticuffs is a valid way to determine who is right in a debate, are anti science, think you’re a tough guy.... this may be the group for you.

Conservative Men’s club rating 1/5
Militia 0/5 (they are not a militia)
Place for intelligent debate 1/5
Group where driving completely sloshed is condoned 5/5
Drink until you puke club 5/5
Sharing pornographic trans pics 5/5 (not joking)

It’s a pretty awful place for men of intelligence.

If you have any questions feel free to ask and I will give honest answers. I originally had paired up with a national columnist but in the end the story is just not there. It’s a group of drunk blue collar men who would have been Union Dems back until Reagan.

You didn't specifically address what they get accused of, being racists and white nationalists. Even a look at their web shows they are not, but that's the specific claim. What you described is what you will find in many male based groups and clubs really. A group of men needing to vent, perhaps not the brightest gents, probably good guys underneath the BS, likely hard working blue collar guys and some ex mil, who feel disenfranchised and need to vent. I can feel more comfortable hanging out with guys like that at then I do with the highly edumicated and or wealthy types I know. If they wanna show up and and counter ANTIFA when they're trying to spread their anarchy where LE have their hands tied, what ever.

[Alex V]

Whomever they may truly be, they have beaten the snot out of ANTIFA and that's alright with me!