On high blood pressure...

[Arik]

Same argument could be made for veggies unless you're o.k. with eating pesticides, herbicides and human fecal matter. In reality, if you have the money and opportunity to do so, locally sourced organic meats, fruits and veggies are the way to go. I have moose, bison, and locally raised chicken in my freezer. When I want a good steak I buy them from a local source that is pretty much grass fed.

Yep!!! True that! Some of that can be washed of though......S O M E... Can't wash off all the corn the cow/pig/chicken had been fed it's whole life while sitting in a cage. Most of the animals we eat wouldn't be as bad for us as they are if it wasn't for corn.

Every so often I get eggs from a friend of mine who lives 5hrs away in a very rural area. His chicken eggs look and taste completely different from store bought eggs. He lets his chickens run around and eat whatever they naturally would eat



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[SteyrAUG]

This is one area where I've been really lucky.

I'm almost 55, and could probably stand to lose 20 lbs. but my BP has always been in the low normal range I always catch new doctors off guard.

I've been in the martial arts all my life but despite being "active" I'm hardly in peak or near perfect physical condition. I can do things most people my age could never do but all my "half my age students" could easily run me into the ground.

But I've actually kept my blood pressure low by doing deep breathing exercises all my life. Obviously if somebody has hereditary BP issues or is in real bad shape, simple breathing exercises aren't going to be a magic fix but for everyone else here is the basic technique.

https://www.verywellhealth.com/how-t...%20of%20events.

One of the keys is long inhale (should take 5-8 seconds), hold and relax for 3 and then a long exhale (5-8 seconds) and then hold and relax for 3. So in addition to the diaphram breathing, you are making your blood oxygen rich which slows the heat rate as a result. It is also commonly used as an immediate stress relief exercise. Just don't do it in traffic or anything the first time, you can actually achieve an oxygen "high" very easily in the beginning and I've seen people who almost fall out of their chair.

This is one of the various forms of seated meditation I've practiced since I was 12 years old and now my regular breathing pattern is so slow I squirrel most polygraph exams. But it's one of the most useful things I've ever learned in terms of real world benefit from martial arts training. It's also helped my shooting a little bit, being able to easily regulate my breathing means my sights and scopes don't dance as hard.

[Honu]

Maybe dif profile but to say not healthy is a word play hahahaha !

https://www.beefmagazine.com/beef-qu...-healthfulness

Like lifting weights we now know for older men less reps and high weight is better for growth then lots of reps and low weights does not make the other one bad
Walking is more healthy for most than running does that make running bad ?
sprinting is way more healthy in many ways HIIT sprints are very good and for some might be better than walking but different than marathon when saying “Running”
running marathons can be insane rough on people and is a extreme sport in many ways so what running when saying running ? Again word play


grass finished has a better fatty acid profile for sure and a few other variances CLA and vit E and A but not so much to make grain “Bad”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2846864/


Grass finished vs grass fed to is a problem many do not know the difference and get marketed grass fed ?
Also the drugs given today thanks to gov crap !is a issue in itself for sure !

NOW pigs and chicken meat are often crap these days based on that grain fed so for that I would say yes to that (same goes through to the eggs )
Why so many people have issues with pork and or chicken ! And why many are starting to do some research in the Ruminant side of why it is not the same in cows


Half the meat I eat is grass finished though
But prefer rib eye from grain fed as it taste better has better marbling etc... and in no way is unhealthy

Im not against anything. I love food.... period! But current meat isn't exactly healthy unless you're ok with re processing processed corn

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[Honu]

Ban bump posting please

[Honu]

Together YUMMM
Need like button

My two oils are butter or bacon fat..

[Honu]

Not sure if you ever heard wim hof method ? Ya Might find it interesting though he is a interesting character to say the least but I find his stuff fascinating to read and try like the cold stuff for both the health and brown fat reasons is why I am getting into it more

But yeah proper breathing is so overlooked and so many could benefit from better breathing !

This is one area where I've been really lucky.

I'm almost 55, and could probably stand to lose 20 lbs. but my BP has always been in the low normal range I always catch new doctors off guard.

I've been in the martial arts all my life but despite being "active" I'm hardly in peak or near perfect physical condition. I can do things most people my age could never do but all my "half my age students" could easily run me into the ground.

But I've actually kept my blood pressure low by doing deep breathing exercises all my life. Obviously if somebody has hereditary BP issues or is in real bad shape, simple breathing exercises aren't going to be a magic fix but for everyone else here is the basic technique.

https://www.verywellhealth.com/how-t...%20of%20events.

One of the keys is long inhale (should take 5-8 seconds), hold and relax for 3 and then a long exhale (5-8 seconds) and then hold and relax for 3. So in addition to the diaphram breathing, you are making your blood oxygen rich which slows the heat rate as a result. It is also commonly used as an immediate stress relief exercise. Just don't do it in traffic or anything the first time, you can actually achieve an oxygen "high" very easily in the beginning and I've seen people who almost fall out of their chair.

This is one of the various forms of seated meditation I've practiced since I was 12 years old and now my regular breathing pattern is so slow I squirrel most polygraph exams. But it's one of the most useful things I've ever learned in terms of real world benefit from martial arts training. It's also helped my shooting a little bit, being able to easily regulate my breathing means my sights and scopes don't dance as hard.

[Honu]

Yep!!! True that! Some of that can be washed of though......S O M E... Can't wash off all the corn the cow/pig/chicken had been fed it's whole life while sitting in a cage. Most of the animals we eat wouldn't be as bad for us as they are if it wasn't for corn.

Every so often I get eggs from a friend of mine who lives 5hrs away in a very rural area. His chicken eggs look and taste completely different from store bought eggs. He lets his chickens run around and eat whatever they naturally would eat



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our friend has chickens that run around the eggs are WOW better I so want my own chickens for the eggs the profile is so so much better for those as said

One reason I used to freaking love wild caught pig in the islands and I reckon why I used to be able to eat more since it was not farm raised
So yeah I do again agree on the cant wash that off but still OK with some grain fed beef just a choice

Same argument could be made for veggies unless you're o.k. with eating pesticides, herbicides and human fecal matter. In reality, if you have the money and opportunity to do so, locally sourced organic meats, fruits and veggies are the way to go. I have moose, bison, and locally raised chicken in my freezer. When I want a good steak I buy them from a local source that is pretty much grass fed.

Why I wont eat farmed fish and why I would never eat talapia !!!!! Hahahahaha

Also I do like how with meat you can get so much more local meat vs most crops are trucked in etc... the E coli break outs in lettuce all the time tells you all you need to know

[SteyrAUG]

Not sure if you ever heard wim hof method ? Ya Might find it interesting though he is a interesting character to say the least but I find his stuff fascinating to read and try like the cold stuff for both the health and brown fat reasons is why I am getting into it more

But yeah proper breathing is so overlooked and so many could benefit from better breathing !

Had to look it up. It's basically the fast food / drive through window version of what I do.

It's essentially the same thing but he's advocating it as a limited exercise when really it should gradually replace what you normally do to the point where you find yourself doing it, or a slightly abbreviated version, unintentionally whenever you are in a relaxed posture.

As a consequence of studying lots of seated meditation exercises I have half a dozen breathing exercises I use for different reasons but the long inhale / long exhale is my default and most useful one. This combined with "belly breathing" (which of course is something of a misnomer with respect to actual anatomy) where I use more than just the top of my lungs is pretty much more normal pattern unless I'm doing something differently on purpose.

It has allowed me to be in much better shape than I actually am. Beyond that I would say "walking" and more importantly walking with purpose (actual destination) and walking to where you eat lunch rather than driving or something like that is one of the most useful things a person can do.

[SteyrAUG]

Why I wont eat farmed fish and why I would never eat talapia !!!!! Hahahahaha

Also I do like how with meat you can get so much more local meat vs most crops are trucked in etc... the E coli break outs in lettuce all the time tells you all you need to know

Even when sourced locally, talapia is canal fish. I almost laugh out loud every time I see it on a menu. Might as well call it shit fish. That anyone would ever eat that over catfish, which is common but so much better, is a mystery to me.

And yeah, imported farmed fish has ruined everything. I remember when you could buy ordinary salmon from the grocery store and then deep freeze it a few days and have sushi safe salmon, well not anymore. Kills me that in Japan you can buy real "fresh" tuna, but here in the states they have to dye that shit red because we bring it in from some shithole county in south america.

And yeah, I pretty much stopped eating lettuce for the same reasons. Iceberg is already nutritionally worthless, no point in risking serious bacteria infection over a pointless garden salad. These days I only eat caesars on rare occasion where I 100% trust the place I'm eating at.

[Arik]

To the OP I had high blood pressure was pre diabetic and had way more health issues including obesity all because I listened to the idiots wrong info including the salt idiocy

And when asking about diet got the lies the docs and health folks did steer me wrongly into the vegan crap or the steer clear of meat idiocy and sadly I believed them so been there done that I speak form experience !!!!

Radically changing my diet cutting out all sugar all breads all oils saved my life changed my life I can not scream that loud enough !!!!!!
Just google up industrialized seed oils and cancer or other health issues and read the actual med pubs you will be like HUH why do they lie to us

After getting to 275+ lbs and always seeming to have some issue I said this is wrong and knew it !
I was insane shape when I was younger up through my 40s but had my lungs damaged by sulfur dioxide exposure and could not do much for a while moved to mainland and had to recover and part of that was sadly listening to wrong advice how to get better ! It made me worse
So that is HOW I got so fat in quick I was 43 when I got hit with the lung issue

Today I am insane shape at 57 5’11” 175 lbs ripped abs flat gut better than most even half my age

and have labs scans blood work to back it up also tons of normal things that one gets with age are all gone joint issues and so on been doing this for a year now all by diet alone !

This is why I am so hard core about not shutting up like the left wants you to or the vegans want you to or listening to their pseudo science crap just like a boy can think he is a girl and can have a period like one and you better accept that ! And call them by the proper pronouns ! Sorry I am going to scream the truth from now on !!!!!


Again I am FOR people eating healthy veggies !!!!
I am against ONLY eating veggies yes as they do not work again the fortified foods or supplements one needs to have to make up for lack of animal product is proof the bone density is proof the gastrointestinal is proof and so on !!!!!

Look into paleo or keto
or just stop all sugar and processed foods and for sure industrialized oils and you will be heaps better
Then see where you are do you want to go further etc.

So what do I eat ? Meat lots of it and dairy and eggs I never liked green veggies but yeah I could eat certain ones but I choose not to again I am not against some veggies some are just flat out bad for ya like the ones I loved potatoes or poi etc...
how much ? As much as I freaking want sometimes 4+ lbs a day I just eat till full and do not eat again until hungry I tend to eat OMAD because I am not hungry later insulin triggering and carbs are a issue big time !!!! What causes the post eat crash and hunger cycles !

So here I am a hardcore carnivore but still say yeah eat veggies if ya like em some are healthy and good and many like the texture and taste so it adds to enjoyment of life eat em enjoy them
Cause I am not a idiot that believes in NOT eating something you like and is healthy over some woke issue about it that are lies ! Again yeah I am passionate about this so tired of being pushed by idiots to try to be quiet or when they buy into the fake documentaries and you realize the funding came from those that would gain $$ from it ? UHHHHH OPEN YOUR EYES

And if ya like meat
Nothing like the other day having 2 2lb rib eyes with butter and then 4 eggs and feeling terrific no nap needed and then go ride your mtn bike hard core


look up Dr Shawn Baker 57 yr old ripped carnivore with world record in rowing etc...
look up Dr Paul Saldino hard core nose to tail carnivore guy this is what I look like but I am older in my late 50s now same weight etc. I prefer that feel look these days but listen to him quite interesting especially on youtube debating people ! And he was a vegan before so again real world both sides
Youtube Dr Ken Berry for a good real world approach to keto also his wife ask what do they look like for their age !
Or Dr Berg Keto Paleo just healthy eating good info and like the others more

Again something to look into it decide are you at your end of things NOT working then maybe try I did and wish my friend who got me into it I listened to him earlier
He also like me balloned and gained over 100 lbs and has lost that and like so many truly healthy

Look at these folks and think how old are they how do they apear how do they look what is skin like do they have baggy eyes or unfit etc... many so called vegans again fortified food or supplementing like mad also look at the ones in your age !!! ANYONE eating crap can look good in their 20s or 30s even 40s IMHO if you are out of shape in your 40s something is truly wrong ! And do not listen to them no matter what but hey I am critical these days

Hey look into and try going vegan good luck I did huge fail and really opened my eyes to the truth and lies !!! Again I did it actual experience !!! Same with whole food idiocy been there done that real world did not does not work properly long term without supps and other idiocy compromises and well what I am doing just worked insane well

BUT find what works for you and makes you feel best and only way to do that is to do them and make notes and get labs and so on and realize it might take a while and at 57 I never ever thought I would be where I am at today I thought at 57 5’11” I would be happy at 200 never thought I would be back at my prime of 175 and look better now then in my 40s and have ripped stomach and no pudge so many older folks have
thank God I tried it cause so many said dont ! Ironic all were kinda overweight had issues now hahahahahahah OH its funny ironic and sad all at the same time I guess that is the word pathetic

My wife freaking loves her veggies by the way and more power to her but she wont shut out meat because of some excuse


Sorry for the rant but am passionate these days about it
Again because I feel so freaking good and sick of the lies from the other woke side trying to shut something down rather than opening up more options IMHO that tells you something is wrong with what they are saying


Bottom line avoid ALL industrialized oils and ALL sugars for 2 months see how ya feel it might be tough and will be rough but could be a good thing to see how ya feel the next month after detox

That's great but that's like the guy here last year with his potato diet. He only ate potatoes and lost a ton of weight.

What about then people who don't eat carbs, processed foods or sugar but still have weight/cholesterol/BP issues?

Maybe dif profile but to say not healthy is a word play hahahaha !

https://www.beefmagazine.com/beef-qu...-healthfulness

Like lifting weights we now know for older men less reps and high weight is better for growth then lots of reps and low weights does not make the other one bad
Walking is more healthy for most than running does that make running bad ?
sprinting is way more healthy in many ways HIIT sprints are very good and for some might be better than walking but different than marathon when saying “Running”
running marathons can be insane rough on people and is a extreme sport in many ways so what running when saying running ? Again word play


grass finished has a better fatty acid profile for sure and a few other variances CLA and vit E and A but not so much to make grain “Bad”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2846864/


Grass finished vs grass fed to is a problem many do not know the difference and get marketed grass fed ?
Also the drugs given today thanks to gov crap !is a issue in itself for sure !

NOW pigs and chicken meat are often crap these days based on that grain fed so for that I would say yes to that (same goes through to the eggs )
Why so many people have issues with pork and or chicken ! And why many are starting to do some research in the Ruminant side of why it is not the same in cows


Half the meat I eat is grass finished though
But prefer rib eye from grain fed as it taste better has better marbling etc... and in no way is unhealthy

That same article makes an argument for canola oil too! And it only talks about ground beef. I didn't realize people eat so much of that! Wow! I can't even think of that many recipes for it aside from burgers. I've always just made my own as needed. Can't remember actually buying ground beef.


Sorry OP!

My dad's side has a history of high BP. I mean high! My dad takes god knows how many meds it it's barely manageable. For him normal is cause to go to the emergency room for most people. His father had extremely high BP too. We're talking systolic (the first number) around 200 and the diastolic around 100. I don't think it was managed well if at all. So I keep an eye on my BP.
For the most part I'm normal. Typically in the range of 110/60 - 120/70. But from time to time I do feel spikes. I can be sitting watching tv and feel a pressure in my head like you would if hanging upside down. Or I'd feel my ears burning. I'd go check my BP and it'll be something like 150/80 for no reason. It would be at random times so I can't pin point it to any specific reason except it only happens at home. The other thing I get is high BP at the doctor's office. No matter the reason when at a doctor's office I'm at 140ish / 80ish. Started a couple years ago for no reason.

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