ATF To Expand Definition Of A Regulated Firearm Receiver

**Red*Lion** · 04-20-21, 22:02

The coming BS.

An internal Department of Justice document explaining how the Biden Administration plans to restrict so-called ghost guns was leaked on Tuesday.

The 107-page document, obtained by The Reload, outlines changes the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) wants to make to outlaw the sale of homemade gun kits by unlicensed manufactures. At the direction of President Joe Biden, the agency plans to propose federal rule changes, which would require anyone selling unfinished firearms receivers to obtain a federal license and mark the parts with a serial number. Anyone who continues to sell unfinished receivers without a license could face federal felony charges.

It then says any unfinished part that “may readily be converted” into a receiver must be treated as a receiver and requires sellers to obtain federal licenses, mark the unfinished parts with serial numbers, and perform background checks on buyers. The proposal provides only subjective standards for what makes an unfinished part “readily” convertible into a finished firearm but provides footnotes to court cases where the term has been applied. One court example included in the document said a part completed in “around an eight-hour working day in a properly equipped machine shop” was considered “readily” convertible. The only example of a ruling defining when a part is not “readily” convertible involved a process that “required [a] master gunsmith in a gun shop and $65,000 worth of equipment and tools.”

https://thereload.com/leaked-atf-doc...an-ghost-guns/

https://thereload.com/app/uploads/20...ft-OGC-HQS.pdf

**jbjh** · 04-20-21, 22:14

Soooo...AK flats...how does that work?

Sent from 80ms in the future

**Coal Dragger** · 04-20-21, 22:14

I’m pretty sure a properly equipped machine shop can turn a chunk of bare aluminum or steel into a firearm receiver in less than 8 hours no problem.

So we need to fill out 4473’s on steel or aluminum billets now?

**utahjeepr** · 04-20-21, 22:14

So any piece of steel will now be considered a reciever?

**FromMyColdDeadHand** · 04-20-21, 23:35

Wasn't a shoelace a auto sear in some case, or is that just gun story lore?

I don't know what this means? It looks like they are pushing to serilize 80% receivers. If they are actually pushing to serialize uppers, and other parts? Wouldn't put it past them. Grip modules? Back straps? Who knows what kind of BS they'll try to push under the cover of ghost guns.

**SteyrAUG** · 04-21-21, 00:31

Originally Posted by jbjh

Soooo...AK flats...how does that work?

Sent from 80ms in the future

Every kid in metal shop from this day forward is going to jail from now on.

What have you got there Jimmy?

Sheet metal, I'm gonna make a bitchin' window ornament for my mom.

OMG...you have a ghost gun AK-47...get your little bitch ass up against the wall, you are going to jail.

**titsonritz** · 04-21-21, 00:35

Originally Posted by jbjh

Soooo...AK flats...how does that work?

Sent from 80ms in the future

What about the Shit Shovel AK, oh my.
https://imgur.com/gallery/TspVw

**SteyrAUG** · 04-21-21, 00:45

Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand

Wasn't a shoelace a auto sear in some case, or is that just gun story lore?

I don't know what this means? It looks like they are pushing to serilize 80% receivers. If they are actually pushing to serialize uppers, and other parts? Wouldn't put it past them. Grip modules? Back straps? Who knows what kind of BS they'll try to push under the cover of ghost guns.

It's real. While trying to classify various Title II conversion methods, somebody pointed out the futility of the idea by showing that a simple shoestring can allow a semi auto to function as a full auto without any military (select fire) parts at all.

ATF responded by saying in that instance, the string would become the registered machine gun part.

But if you find that baffling, nothing is more astonishing than the ATF determination that the "empty volume of air" constitutes the second machine gun.

During the 80s many HK firearms with a shelf and clip lower (90 series setup) had sear conversions done but the receiver was not modified to accept a factory swing down group, modifications were simply done to the internals of the trigger group.

Following the ban on registering domestic machine guns in 1986 some owners with "registered sear pack" HK machine guns wanted to drill the lower so it could accept a swing down setup with the understanding they needed to use the converted and registered internals in the new trigger group. Since the trigger group contained the registered machine gun part they felt there should be no problem drilling out the HK receiver to accept it in a different trigger frame.

ATF declared that drilling the receiver would constitute manufacture of a new, second machine gun that would render the entire gun a post sample machine gun despite the fact that it contained a pre 86 transferable sear pack.

With the understanding a registered machine gun part should qualify the host firearm as a legal machine gun Dan Shea asked where exactly does the new "second" machine gun exist to which ATF replied that the new "empty volume of air" created by drilling the host receiver constituted the new machine gun that was manufactured.