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    I would consider just picking up a 9mm PCC. You can shoot steel, and in normal times, its way cheaper to shoot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by okie View Post
    Have one, but it's not the same. And they get the rifle FILTHY! I mean failed trigger resets within 200 rounds kind of filthy, and it schmoos up the gas tube and everything, too.
    Cleaning rimfire cans sucks, too.

    Quote Originally Posted by okie View Post
    Keyholling would be fine. I just want to shoot steel inside 50 yards.

    How do they load such a heavy projectile? I didn't think it was even possible.
    Youre not concerned with baffle strikes?

    To the dude that suggested a long, heavy bullet: dont forget about stabilization. Heavy is good, but length is something that has to be considered.

    The PCC suggestion is a pretty good one, and I use that for a significant portion of my close range training for the reasons that popped up in this thread, and more. If the goal is inexpensive SBR training that wont break your ossicles, a PCC is an awesome tool. Itll never be as quiet as a subsonic small-bore, but its a happy medium thatll work your timer without being overly loud and expensive. Mine is a very near-clone to my 556 gun, instead of being super short or pimped for USPSA.
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    Magazine dimensional limits would be my concern with heavy long bullets. I have tried the Atomic subs out of an 18 barrel using a can and no cycling but stupid quiet. I was concerned about the bullet leaving the barrel as well. I think I will stick with .300 blk subs suppressed with pistol length gas. To me there is no point in trying to reload subsonic .223 when there are better options IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViniVidivici View Post
    I can't imagine a more pointless reloading endeavor.
    I quit my reply yesterday trying to think of a diplomatic way to say the exact same thing.
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    Atomic makes two weights of .223 subs. Which did you use, and did it stabilize?

    Quote Originally Posted by duece71 View Post
    Magazine dimensional limits would be my concern with heavy long bullets. I have tried the Atomic subs out of an 18 barrel using a can and no cycling but stupid quiet. I was concerned about the bullet leaving the barrel as well. I think I will stick with .300 blk subs suppressed with pistol length gas. To me there is no point in trying to reload subsonic .223 when there are better options IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mRad View Post
    I would consider just picking up a 9mm PCC. You can shoot steel, and in normal times, its way cheaper to shoot.


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    I have so much money in my setup I can't clone it to another upper. Still kind of the same thing though where it's still just not quite the same. Different mags, different ergos.

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    What, your training clone would need a MAWL and Nightforce? Now Im interested for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by okie View Post
    Keyholling would be fine. I just want to shoot steel inside 50 yards.

    How do they load such a heavy projectile? I didn't think it was even possible.

    Wobble inside the suppressor would be a great way to initiate baffle strikes... Just sayin...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1168 View Post
    What, your training clone would need a MAWL and Nightforce? Now I’m interested for sure.
    I did already mention that my primary goal here is to be able to shoot at night without bothering the neighbors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by okie View Post
    Have one, but it's not the same. And they get the rifle FILTHY! I mean failed trigger resets within 200 rounds kind of filthy, and it schmoos up the gas tube and everything, too.

    And you don't think pistol powders and 'fillers' are going to dirty up your gas tube?

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