Get Your Pron Before The Ban...

[SteyrAUG]

Dude, think about what you’re advocating for.

This is America, do whatever you want of it doesn’t hurt someone else, I’m simply suggesting it doesn’t help.

There are countless studies showing it(and countless rebuttals) but I’d still rather have sex with a woman and buy NODs or take a trip to hike the Bob Marshall Wilderness than spend my money collecting vintage naked pictures of dead people or masturbating to an unrealistic fantasy acted out by drug addled and often traumatized people.

So when I watch porn with my wife I'm masturbating?

Porn is also just a job, no more dehumanizing than scrubbing toilets at McDonalds. Also plenty of people who scrub toilets engage in substance abuse and have mental problems. Nobody is forced to do it at gun point. They could work at Wendy's if they wanted to.

[SteyrAUG]

You may not LIKE his observation; it remains true, nonetheless.

Well here is a problem. I've seen LOTS of porn, it hasn't reduced my sex drive, ended my marriage, made me incapable of love, pretty sure my interpersonal skills and interaction with people are fine.

So as a result, it's not true. Might be true for some, but as noted people can screw up their lives with anything. Most of us can handle beer, some can't. Doesn't mean beer is the problem.

[Firefly]

So when I watch porn with my wife I'm masturbating?

Porn is also just a job, no more dehumanizing than scrubbing toilets at McDonalds. Also plenty of people who scrub toilets engage in substance abuse and have mental problems. Nobody is forced to do it at gun point. They could work at Wendy's if they wanted to.

I dunno. I get where youÂ’re going but because of societyÂ’s little hang ups; porn isnÂ’t that easy to escape.

I mean everybody can sympathize with scrubbing McDonalds toilets. But some woman who had like twenty black dudes hitting her all at once and nibbling on her toes as they did it certainly raises a brow. There are women who used their porn money to get a Master’s degree in education and still could only get work as the Lunch Lady and even THEN some fatass has to google her up and write an email to the administration about how they “don’t feel comfortable with a porn lady serving her kids sloppy joes”. So they fire her despite her being over 40 and fat.

So many have tried and failed. They might get one or two bit parts in a B movie but it will always be in some “sexy” role. They’re not the “mom” or the “witness”, certainly not the plucky heroine. They’re either a hooker or someone who bares their tits as a gag. Har dee har har.

I mean Tom Hanks can shoot fitty Krauts with a Tommy Gun and heÂ’s Hollywood royalty and can play Sully Sullenberger or the Castaway despite his big starting role being a crossdresser. But Christy Canyon sucks off the Pizza Man then sheÂ’s eternally a porn actress forever.

So to say porn industry cannot be damaging to someone is a bit naive.

And at some point they all have kids who are going to ask questions and thatÂ’s going to be tough. ItÂ’s not the early 80s anymore where Sylvia Kristal could do just enough blur the line and still come off it respectable.

I mean I get it. But both sides do have a point. I still don’t agree with trying to “cancel” it of course

[Bulletdog]

I dunno. I get where youÂ’re going but because of societyÂ’s little hang ups; porn isnÂ’t that easy to escape.

I mean everybody can sympathize with scrubbing McDonalds toilets. But some woman who had like twenty black dudes hitting her all at once and nibbling on her toes as they did it certainly raises a brow. There are women who used their porn money to get a Master’s degree in education and still could only get work as the Lunch Lady and even THEN some fatass has to google her up and write an email to the administration about how they “don’t feel comfortable with a porn lady serving her kids sloppy joes”. So they fire her despite her being over 40 and fat.

So many have tried and failed. They might get one or two bit parts in a B movie but it will always be in some “sexy” role. They’re not the “mom” or the “witness”, certainly not the plucky heroine. They’re either a hooker or someone who bares their tits as a gag. Har dee har har.

I mean Tom Hanks can shoot fitty Krauts with a Tommy Gun and heÂ’s Hollywood royalty and can play Sully Sullenberger or the Castaway despite his big starting role being a crossdresser. But Christy Canyon sucks off the Pizza Man then sheÂ’s eternally a porn actress forever.

So to say porn industry cannot be damaging to someone is a bit naive.

And at some point they all have kids who are going to ask questions and thatÂ’s going to be tough. ItÂ’s not the early 80s anymore where Sylvia Kristal could do just enough blur the line and still come off it respectable.

I mean I get it. But both sides do have a point. I still don’t agree with trying to “cancel” it of course

As has been said. No one is forced to do it, and some, if not most of them, thoroughly enjoy it.

To the point of the thread, its none of Ebay's business. As long as no one is doing anything illegal, they ought to STFU.

[Jellybean]

You know if you think about it...

People win Oscars for movies where somebody is getting cut in half with a .50 cal or blown up by artillery but two fairly young, fit and healthy people having sex is gross and obscene....

Oh no, you stop that right there. You're going to put me in rant mode, and I know nobody here wants me to mag dump another 2-pager...
I literally grew up surrounded by people with that sort of 2-faced mentality. Still makes me want to kick someone.
In fact, mini-rant, on your "Tom Hanks and his Tommy Gun" point, had this exact convo a while back. Mom with a couple early-teen girls, we somehow got on the topic of parenting and movies during lunch.
Totally ok with her kids watching Saving Private Ryan because it's "historical"... wouldn't let the kids watch Iron Man 2 cuz there was a so-called "bedroom scene." THE F**K? Freaking Iron Man is too "adult" for your kids but hey, bloody beach landings are A-OK.
I wanted so badly to say what I really thought about that asshattery, but she was my boss/CEOs wife, and I really needed to NOT get fired right then, so... You just have to smile and pretend you're ok but you're not ok....

Happy ending, some time later the kids sacked up and just watched the movie themselves, mom was pissed. I was kinda proud of em (also cuz both boss/wife were kinda assholes too).
But there were so many other things over the years I worked there where I felt like I was watching those kids live the first half of my life all over again, but you're not their parent and don't want to get involved...

.......
I am surprised though, that anyone care about eBay or what they sell. Is this just eBay's choice, or is it being forced on them?......

4 pages of self righteous whinging and I can't believe nobody has asked this simple and important question (or stated it to start with)...
IS Ebay just being shitty, or are they getting their arm twisted by 'the usual suspects'?

I won’t debate propriety but this is yet another silencing of free speech.

There will come a time in this country where the act of a man and a woman making love will be considered Hate Speech....

Well that is odd. This seems like something the repubs would do. I thought the lefties were all about no censorship and promoting any kind of societal depravity. I guess porn is too mainstream for them now? Too many white males like it, so they will ban it?...

You guys have no idea how true all this is/becoming.... Those people are up to some truly psycho shit.
Which is funny, because in typical hypocritical fashion they can't decide which button to press... "empowerment" or "mean to wammen".

Anyway, per 'the industry', some people can handle their beer, and others can't.
As long as you haven't fallen into the OnlyFans simp trap, your still doing ok.

[TomMcC]

Sexual immorality is alive and well, using people is so enjoyable and normal. Americans should do it more.

[SteyrAUG]

To be clear, I didn’t invoke a religious belief. I didn’t say porn shouldn’t exist. I just think we’re smarter than to believe the theory that it’s simply benign fun for either the viewer or the performer.

The slightest amount of research that I’ve done has showed me with data, not my personal sample size of one or my feelings, that the risks and legitimate chemical changes outweigh the benefits- for me.

Live your life, but be honest and open minded when reviewing large scale, peer reviewed studies and the data they produce.

Porn causes chemical changes? That's a new one on me.

And "for certain" there is that segment of the population that ruins their life with obsession with porn. But I watched a woman destroy her marriage and most relationships with World of Warcraft so obviously anything can be a trigger but I don't think we can blame World of Warcraft.

And there are plenty of examples of messed up girls who grew up in super fundamentalist houses but also got raped by religious daddy so people can literally ruin lives with anything.

[SteyrAUG]

I dunno. I get where youÂ’re going but because of societyÂ’s little hang ups; porn isnÂ’t that easy to escape.

I mean everybody can sympathize with scrubbing McDonalds toilets. But some woman who had like twenty black dudes hitting her all at once and nibbling on her toes as they did it certainly raises a brow. There are women who used their porn money to get a Master’s degree in education and still could only get work as the Lunch Lady and even THEN some fatass has to google her up and write an email to the administration about how they “don’t feel comfortable with a porn lady serving her kids sloppy joes”. So they fire her despite her being over 40 and fat.

Brings up a good point, not all porn is the same. Lots of stuff I don't get, won't get. I'm probably a "fudd equivalent" in porn watchers. I don't understand gang bangs and a lot of stuff. If dude has tattoos, can't watch that shit. If the girl has more than a couple tattoos, I'm also out.

I know most believe porn is a gateway thing where eventually everyone needs a snuff film to get excited, but I'm actually going the other way. A lot of todays porn just ain't for me. I'd rather watch Ginger Lynn and Christy Canyon in lingerie double teaming Tom Byron than watch whoever has the gang bang record currently or some tatted up skank getting pipe fitted by some biker dudes.

So many have tried and failed. They might get one or two bit parts in a B movie but it will always be in some “sexy” role. They’re not the “mom” or the “witness”, certainly not the plucky heroine. They’re either a hooker or someone who bares their tits as a gag. Har dee har har.

I mean Tom Hanks can shoot fitty Krauts with a Tommy Gun and heÂ’s Hollywood royalty and can play Sully Sullenberger or the Castaway despite his big starting role being a crossdresser. But Christy Canyon sucks off the Pizza Man then sheÂ’s eternally a porn actress forever.

So to say porn industry cannot be damaging to someone is a bit naive.

And at some point they all have kids who are going to ask questions and thatÂ’s going to be tough. ItÂ’s not the early 80s anymore where Sylvia Kristal could do just enough blur the line and still come off it respectable.

I mean I get it. But both sides do have a point. I still don’t agree with trying to “cancel” it of course

So I would say be damn sure of your choices before you decide to become a porn star. It probably has a bigger stigma than being a NRA Life Member, but maybe not.

[TomMcC]

Some people's lives are so ruined, but yet they think that they are good or normal.

[SteyrAUG]

Sexual immorality is alive and well, using people is so enjoyable and normal. Americans should do it more.

LOL. What country do you think you live in?

When Purdue promotes non addictive opiods like Oxy, do you not think that is using people? Were those people damaged more or less than those involved in the porn industry?

Tobacco companies, their product WILL eventually kill you...but it's free choice right?

People who live in areas where the only real work is coal mines? Do porn stars typically live longer lives than those with black lung and lung cancer?

There is so much predatory capitalism in this country it's not funny, but that doesn't make capitalism itself bad. And there's lots worse things than porn.

If I had a daughter who was thinking about becoming a wahhabist, I'd rather she make movies for Vivid.