Pistol Brace Regulations are about to drop.

[The Dumb Gun Collector]

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/social...olence-measure

https://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eoDetails?rrid=168614

It looks like they are about to drop the bomb.

[Coal Dragger]

While I think the NFA is a garbage law, and SBR’s shouldn’t be a tax stamp item, this was inevitable.

Pistol braces were always meant to be shouldered, and trying to cheat as it were the NFA was, and remains a bad idea under the law as written. That won’t make me popular but there it is.

No one in Congress or the courts is gonna overturn this or even ask questions and puff up in a hearing.

[okie]

While I think the NFA is a garbage law, and SBR’s shouldn’t be a tax stamp item, this was inevitable.

Pistol braces were always meant to be shouldered, and trying to cheat as it were the NFA was, and remains a bad idea under the law as written. That won’t make me popular but there it is.

No one in Congress or the courts is gonna overturn this or even ask questions and puff up in a hearing.

Yep. The best we can hope for is a free tax stamp.

[Coal Dragger]

In which case I might very well SBR a couple of guns for free.

They’re not wearing a brace, and none of them have barrels shorter than 16”. But if I can get a free tax stamp...

[okie]

In which case I might very well SBR a couple of guns for free.

They’re not wearing a brace, and none of them have barrels shorter than 16”. But if I can get a free tax stamp...

My thoughts exactly. I have a law enforcement marked 6920 and a genuine Commando upper that have been flirting with each other for months now. Who am I to keep them apart?

[Korgs130]

While I think the NFA is a garbage law, and SBR’s shouldn’t be a tax stamp item, this was inevitable.

Pistol braces were always meant to be shouldered, and trying to cheat as it were the NFA was, and remains a bad idea under the law as written. That won’t make me popular but there it is.

No one in Congress or the courts is gonna overturn this or even ask questions and puff up in a hearing.

I get what you’re saying, but to me, it hasn’t been a cheat, so much as a separate category. I own SBRs and I own braced pistols. The braced pistols allow me to do things that my SBRs don’t. In IL with a CCW permit I can carry my braced pistol (usually my Micro Scorpion) loaded in my car or in a bag. I work in the Southside of Chicago and I can legally carry my braced pistol in both Chiraq and Cook County. I take my SBR there, even unloaded and I’m breaking a couple of different laws.

All of that aside, I can’t SBR my Micro Scorpion even if I wanted to, because SBRs in IL need to have a minimum OAL of 26”. But hey, “free tax stamp” right? That does me no good in this situation. Here’s an idea, how about federal, state and local governments just step off our sacks and let us, as individuals, decide how to best defend ourselves.

[SteyrAUG]

Waiting to see if the ADA is going to care or not.

As for give me liberty or bite my big one. These items were designed as pistols. They simply no longer qualify as pistols with an arm brace. Every single owner can return them to pistol configuration without risk of confiscation or having their compound burned down.

But again this is where shooters with physical limitations need to step up and say "Hey....BULLSHIT", because they actually use a pistol brace as intended.

Also for everyone thinking "Hey...FREE SBR", that will only apply to those who leave pistol braces in place. If you are thinking about installing a true M4 or SOPMOD or whatever else stock on it, well THAT particular SBR stamp is gonna be one your dime. They are literally talking about creating a new class of SBRs.

ATF did try and address this with a simple ruling "can't shoulder pistol brace guns" but the Molon Labe crowd decided they will take the pistol brace off their shoulder out of their cold, dead hands. I'm constantly amazed at the bubba shit that becomes the major battles in gun rights. Bump stocks, shoulder braces, making rifle ammo "armor piercing pistol ammo" because some dipshit had to gunsmith an AK pistol. It's all shit I don't care the slightest bit about but I end up having to fight the war anyway because it spills over into new definitions of machine guns, new rules about SBRs and surplus rife ammo being declared illegal.

Not sure who is gonna get us first, them or our neckbeard gun owners. And if you don't swear to love bump stocks and arm brace pistols with all of your body including your pee pee, then you are a scum sucking torie loyalist who doesn't understand freedom and liberty.

[flenna]

This is just another step towards full registration and then confiscation. Look- your pistol is now an SBR but you can register it for free. Next step- your scary black rifle is now an NFA item, but you can register it for free. And then- your semi auto anything is now an NFA item- but you can register it for free.

[prepare]

The gov supposedly gets its authority from the constitution. There is no mention of the doj or the batfe in the constitution so do they have any legitament authority?

Fraud and force is all they have. The gov has become school yard bullies that demand our lunch and lunch money and we continue to acquiesce.

Start questioning where the gov actually gets its authority to make all these codes, rules, regulations, and laws. Its nothing more than a bunch of gov bureaucrats that make shit up.

When they pass a new law what does it pass other than a bunch of bureaucratic bs that we the people don't even get a vote on?

Its not just guns either, its masks, and all the health dept nazis that regulate small businesses the same way.

[SteyrAUG]

This is just another step towards full registration and then confiscation. Look- your pistol is now an SBR but you can register it for free. Next step- your scary black rifle is now an NFA item, but you can register it for free. And then- your semi auto anything is now an NFA item- but you can register it for free.

OR you can take the stupid arm brace off and stop pretending you are scamming the .gov with a under the radar SBR. For 10 damn years+ AR pistols (which were stupid in the first place) simply had bare buffer tubes. Now everyone is "muh sig brace...my rights."

Want an SBR, build or make an SBR. Want an AR pistol then deal with having a AR pistol.

For decades we all understood that if we put a VFG on a pistol it becomes an AOW requiring a tax stamp so if you weren't willing to register and pay $5 we simply didn't do it. We didn't come up with fold down bottom accessory rails that conveniently functioned as a VFG.

Also these aren't the battles we want to fight. Arm braces? **** em. Make it so if you can't show a doctors note genuine disability they don't belong on your HANDGUN. In the meantime maybe go after something that matters, something that will actually mean something like the continued erosion of FOPA 86, the ever changing definitions of "firearm" and "machine gun."

Go full tilt boogie on 80% receivers and ghost gun nonsense. I don't have any 80% receivers, I'd never guy one, I'll live the rest of my life without wanting one BUT that is a legit battle to fight. It's NOT a F'ing firearm, that's what it's an 80% receiver. If it was a 100% receiver THEN it's a firearm but not until. And it's really, really, really important that we maintain definitions of words like "firearm" because otherwise the next day a barrel is a goddamn firearm.

So please pick your battles. Arm brace SBRs is one for the ADA if they even care enough to bother.