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Thread: Is .45 Obsolete (Mas Ayoob)?

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    Is .45 Obsolete (Mas Ayoob)?

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    I own both. I've been issued both. I shoot both pretty well.

    If I have a choice I'll carry a .45.

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    As a .45 guy, I can understand why he's carrying more 9mm--arthritis can put a cramp on a lot of things. Speaking for myself, I handle .45 recoil better than 9mm on the same platform--subjectively speaking from my own perception, usually a 9mm "snaps" dumping all its recoil energy at once while a .45 is more like a slow steady "push" distributing its energy over a longer time span.

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    The .45acp is far from obsolete. I can find large pistol primers more easily than small. Using 185g bullets at about 820fps negates the excessive recoil argument

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    Proof is in the FMJ pudding !

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    While I rarely shoot my Les Baer 1911, I took it out with my G34 MOS and HK P7 to the plate racks this weekend. They all work great as I'm trying to spread the ammo drawdown as $600-700 per thousand isn't my brand.

    Clickbait article title is right up there with
    Is beer obsolete?
    Are redheads obsolete?

    Sure arguably in certain situations the are better things than .45, beer and redheads, but own their own they're pretty great at what they do.

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    I seem to recall reading an article along these lines.

    It was around 1983, in Guns and Ammo magazine.

    Next, let's have a discussion about Isosceles versus Weaver.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriousStudent View Post
    I seem to recall reading an article along these lines.

    It was around 1983, in Guns and Ammo magazine.

    Next, let's have a discussion about Isosceles versus Weaver.......
    Since we're dredging up the old arguments......

    Which is better .308 or 30.06 ?

    is .45 obsolete?....not even close to being obsolete..........hard to believe that question would even come up..

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    .45 ACP will never be obsolete. 9mm will kill man, .45 will kill his soul.

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    I want to preface this by saying he's an invaluable source for legal info, but he really jumped the shark on this one.

    Of course, you guys have 115-gr. 9mm duty ammo, and our .45 pistols take a 230-gr. load. Your officer and mine each have the exact same amount of lead in hand to inject when they draw their guns, but mine injects a double dose every time they pull the trigger.”
    He's literally saying the .45 is half as efficient and extolling that as a virtue. By that reasoning, you could argue a single shot .50 cal is better still. All 1500 grains injected in a single shot!

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