Clones question

[Randall68]

I bought a large amount of Aimpoint clones to sell and wonder if there will be a market for them? These look just like the real deal and aren't for airsoft. Any Ideas? I have thought about gun shows but the tables are expensive. As well I have thought about ebay but have had bad problems with them in the past. Maybe a myspace page? LOL

[Iraqgunz]

I have a better idea. Get a BFH and smash all those POS clones into little pieces. 99% really don't care for crap like that here. On the other hand maybe AR15.com guys will buy them up.

[Randall68]

I have a better idea. Get a BFH and smash all those POS clones into little pieces. 99% really don't care for crap like that here. On the other hand maybe AR15.com guys will buy them up.

Try some kava kava, it helps with stress.

[Damascus]

I doubt you're going to get much help on this subject here... Many of us have to depend on our equipment with our lives - and the idea of someone spreading around junky lookalike optics is offensive to most. Only people who don't know any better will buy them, and could be ignorant enough to depend on one someday, and could pay dearly for it.
Take them to ebay and I hope you have the integrity to let people know that it's not a good idea to use these optics for anything other than target shooting or hunting. I feel it would be very dishonorable to try and sell those to someone looking for a home defense or duty weapon - I'm not saying that you will do that, just giving you my 2 cents.

[Randall68]

I doubt you're going to get much help on this subject here... Many of us have to depend on our equipment with our lives - and the idea of someone spreading around junky lookalike optics is offensive to most. Only people who don't know any better will buy them, and could be ignorant enough to depend on one someday, and could pay dearly for it.
Take them to ebay and I hope you have the integrity to let people know that it's not a good idea to use these optics for anything other than target shooting or hunting. I feel it would be very dishonorable to try and sell those to someone looking for a home defense or duty weapon - I'm not saying that you will do that, just giving you my 2 cents.

Thank you for your reasoned and calm input. As for help probably not on the forum. Anyone who isn't bright enough to have a real battle tested sight on thier piece probably shouldn't be carrying a weapon into a fire fight at all. If someone is offended than they have the problem. If someone was trying to buy a BMW and saw a little Japanese car right next to it on the lot do you really think they would say "Hmm, that one's 45'000 and that one is red and only 12,000 and go for the Honda instead of the BMW? And do you think the person trying to buy the BMW would go into the car lot and complain about the Honda being on the lot? Listen I have read about clones on THIS sight. When someone states "Clone" it means Copy, dup, replica, fake. What's so hard to navigate about that? Ever seen the Bushnell Holosight? Made by Eotech, with out the hood. Or the Burris XTS135? Made is S. Korea by Dong Inc. It seems that more people have read this post than replied to it which means it's a HONDA to them. And lastly I do explain what these are as does the title (CLONE) . I think most of this strir is a matter of keeping up appearences and keeping up with the Jones's. Thanks for taking enough time out of your busy "combat" days to find a computer and respond to this blastfemus thread.

[mtk]

So you've got a bunch of scopes, made by someone who blatantly stole someone else's design without paying them a penny for it, and you want advice on how to sell them?

Pretty much every response I can think of begins with an obscenity and goes downhill from there.

Personally, I hope you get stuck with the lot of them and lose your ass in the process.

[Randall68]

So you've got a bunch of scopes, made by someone who blatantly stole someone else's design without paying them a penny for it, and you want advice on how to sell them?

Pretty much every response I can think of begins with an obscenity and goes downhill from there.

Personally, I hope you get stuck with the lot of them and lose your ass in the process.

Don't sweat the pertty stuff ,and don't pet the sweaty stuff.

[Don Robison]

Try some kava kava, it helps with stress.

And a BFH will take care of those "clones".

[Outlander Systems]

Unfortunately, not.

Reputable manufacturers such as Bushnell, for example, have optics that aren't held together with electrical tape, offer a warranty, and have a reputation to uphold; as well their more budget-friendly optics actually work, and are roughly the same price as a Clonepoint®. When these factors are taken in together, I could obtain an optic that I know will work under certain circumstances, or a Clonepoint® which is an absolute and total forgery, and copyright infringement.

For example, I could buy this optic for approximately the same price as the Clonepoint®, and if it breaks, there's a manufacturer I can send it back to.
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...shnell+torture

As well, most of the folks here either rely on their rifle for defense of their lives, their reputations(in the sake of the competitive shooters), or folks who believe that freedom requires constant vigilance.

Anyone with a $1000+ to spend on a rifle can afford to get a quality optic. As well, for the price of a Clonepoint®, a buyer could get a very high quality set of backup irons.

All of the above is the weakest argument for buying an alternative.

Another argument is that the faceless Chinese sweatshop labour who pumps these out, doesn't have a quality-control standard, due to the fact that you're essentially buying illegal goods (intellectual property right infringement). So you're SOL on ever sending it back for maintenence or repair.

An even better argument is the fact that the amount you'd spend in feeding the cheap-o knockoff optics batteries, would have covered the difference in buying a real Aimpoint, and not even needing batteries but once or twice a decade or so. The battery savings alone would more than cover the spread of difference in the initial purchase price.

And, lastly, the most important reason of all is that the swindlers, crooks, and theives that manufacture these things, would never, EVER, do ANYTHING like this:
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...agpul+goodness

A lot of us here are proud to be Americans, and take steps to avoid sending any money toward Communist China as much as possible, ESPECIALLY when it comes to firearms, and the related bolt-on items.

One more reason?

[Randall68]

Unfortunately, not.

Reputable manufacturers such as Bushnell, for example, have optics that aren't held together with electrical tape, offer a warranty, and have a reputation to uphold; as well their more budget-friendly optics actually work, and are roughly the same price as a Clonepoint®. When these factors are taken in together, I could obtain an optic that I know will work under certain circumstances, or a Clonepoint® which is an absolute and total forgery, and copyright infringement.

For example, I could buy this optic for approximately the same price as the Clonepoint®, and if it breaks, there's a manufacturer I can send it back to.
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...shnell+torture

As well, most of the folks here either rely on their rifle for defense of their lives, their reputations(in the sake of the competitive shooters), or folks who believe that freedom requires constant vigilance.

Anyone with a $1000+ to spend on a rifle can afford to get a quality optic. As well, for the price of a Clonepoint®, a buyer could get a very high quality set of backup irons.

All of the above is the weakest argument for buying an alternative.

Another argument is that the faceless Chinese sweatshop labour who pumps these out, doesn't have a quality-control standard, due to the fact that you're essentially buying illegal goods (intellectual property right infringement). So you're SOL on ever sending it back for maintenence or repair.

An even better argument is the fact that the amount you'd spend in feeding the cheap-o knockoff optics batteries, would have covered the difference in buying a real Aimpoint, and not even needing batteries but once or twice a decade or so. The battery savings alone would more than cover the spread of difference in the initial purchase price.

And, lastly, the most important reason of all is that the swindlers, crooks, and theives that manufacture these things, would never, EVER, do ANYTHING like this:
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...agpul+goodness

A lot of us here are proud to be Americans, and take steps to avoid sending any money toward Communist China as much as possible, ESPECIALLY when it comes to firearms, and the related bolt-on items.

One more reason?

Wow that was petty intense! Did you have that stuff, just sitting there on disk for just such an occasion. I didn't read most of it but the pictures were GREAT!